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Powering Accessories on a DCC layout

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Powering Accessories on a DCC layout
Posted by Archipapa on Friday, September 11, 2015 7:43 AM

So I am about ready to start laying track on my home layout and something occured to me...I hadn't conidered how to power the accessories.  In the old days of DC and Tyco we just powered them off the power pack.  But my Prodigy DCC system doesn't have that.  I have an old Tech II that I could use for that but it seems kind of tacky and probably not terribly efficient.  What do you guys do these days for all the lights, buildings, signals, etc?

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Friday, September 11, 2015 9:00 AM

Buy Separate 12v transform, add rectifier and fuse. Run bus thereof around table connect stuff to it ad lib. No point runing everything off of one supply. Is idea that is dumb. Use old powerpack for that. Is good idea, not tacky. Does not even need to be seen. Mount it out of the way someplace.

Layout of LION has five transformers.

1) Main track power, variable voltage Regulated DC.

2) 16v dc for signals, detectors, relays and automation system.

3) 12v dc for Hotel Power (station lighting, street lighting, house lighting. etc.)

4) GRS Model-5 Interlocking Machine -12v dc for Tortoise in NORAML position.

5) GRS Model-5 Interlocking Machine +12v dc for Tortoise in REVERSE position.

6) COMMON HARD GROUND

LIONS like to keep thing simple!

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, September 11, 2015 9:24 AM

 Use that Tech II. Do not use DCC power for structure lighting. When you need more power for DCC, you need to buy a (relatively) expensive booster. When you need more power for lighting, you add a $5 wall wart.

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Posted by Archipapa on Friday, September 11, 2015 9:37 AM

Thanks all.  I think until I wisen up on the topic I will just use the Tech II and keep it out of site.  Appreciate the feedback!

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Posted by da1 on Sunday, September 13, 2015 9:20 AM

Wall worts.  Bought a dozen used at a flea market couple years ago for $5 for the bag.  AC and DC, filtered and unfiltered in the bag. Now I have five or six of them scattered about the layout powering DS64s, tortoises, lighting, etc.  You can't build a PS for that.  Most of the worts are 1A output - plenty of watts for our milli-watt environment.

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Posted by retsignalmtr on Monday, September 14, 2015 6:58 PM
I use Digitrax Empire builder with the 5 amp power supply to run my N scale layout. I have a few twin coil switch machines that I am powering from the power supply before it goes to the command station. a few switch machines or structure lights (leds) will not make the trains run adversley with the DCC. I am switching to Tortoise machines and have a 3.3 amp power supply for it and my signals. Since I can run my layout on DC or DCC I can use the DC power pack to light up my structures even when running on DCC.
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Posted by Renegade1c on Monday, September 14, 2015 8:24 PM

I use a old computer power supply converted to modelling use. It supplies +12 volts and +5 volts and will handle all accessories on the layout. I must warn you that if you have never converted a computer power supply it has some very dangerous components inside. It does also require a constant load to function correctly. I use a 10 watt 10 ohm resistor for this with a cooling fan.

I have a buss wire for 12 vdc, 5 vdc and ground that runs around the whole layout and all accessories are run off of it

Don't use your DCC power as it is the most costly power you have. Also if your turnout motors are on the DCC buss and you get a short on a switch you can't correct it because the bus is shutdown 


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Posted by 12444 on Monday, September 14, 2015 8:29 PM

Renegade1c

I use a old computer power supply converted to modelling use. It supplies +12 volts and +5 volts and will handle all accessories on the layout. I must warn you that if you have never converted a computer power supply it has some very dangerous components inside. It does also require a constant load to function correctly. I use a 10 watt 10 ohm resistor for this with a cooling fan.

I have a buss wire for 12 vdc, 5 vdc and ground that runs around the whole layout and all accessories are run off of it

Don't use your DCC power as it is the most costly power you have. Also if your turnout motors are on the DCC buss and you get a short on a switch you can't correct it because the bus is shutdown 

 

That's a cool way of doing it. The HO scale layout at the club I'm un just uses straight 120V AC with wall adapters to power accessories.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:46 PM

On a fairly large (double garage filler) layout, I use a variety of small power supplies to light things, power electric switch machines and run signals.  Track power is reserved for powering locomotives and on-train lights.

The small supplies are:

  1. Toy train power packs.  Thanks to my yard sale addicted sister I have a dozen or so.
  2. Wall warts.  The gadgets they once powered are long dead, but the wall warts soldier on.  The ones meant for 18V power tools are especially good for slamming the solenoid cores of twin-coil switch machines and semaphores.
  3. 12.6V center-tapped filament transformers.  I scored several on a package deal.  Good for anything that's happy with AC power.  If DC is wanted, just add diodes.  (I leave the circuit designs as an exercise for the student...)

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - with distributed electrical power.)

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, September 15, 2015 5:04 PM

 What i WANT to do is run 15VAC around my layout, and if I need DC, tap off to a rectifier and filter, or if I need lower voltage, that plus a DC-DC converter (if you don't want to build your own, there are cheap ones ($5 and less) on ebay. That way I wouldn't need a bunch of different voltage supplies and lots of extra wires. Until the day I get one "got to have it" accessory that needs 18V AC....  Or maybe just use a DC supply, I can't think of anything I'd be putting in place that uses AC (all structures will be lit with LEDs, no bulbs).

 Power bus for this would be distributed, if one power supply of sufficient capacity is sourced. Each run will be fused to some lesser current (not running say 15VAC at 40 amps in one bus).

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