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Posted by NP2626 on Thursday, April 23, 2015 4:43 PM

mlehman

Yeah, this forum could use an Ignore feature for the chronically socially gritty among us.

Mark,

A couple of other products that have different apps. I've mentioned my use of CRC 2-26 before. I primarily use it in TINY amounts on the rail. It is very thin, but never had any issues with it getting in the wrong spots. I also use it on problem contacts. I have a few Shinoharas with Caboose Ind. handthrows on the oldest part of the layout which sometimes have a bit of an issues routing power through the points. I'll take a popsicle stick, wet the end and swipe it between the point and the stock rail. Really helps.

Then there's Neolube No. 2. It is an "anti-seize lubricant source of graphite film for nuclear applications..." among other great qualities printed on the label. So if your neutron bomb is a little cranky, like some commenters here are inclined to be to fellow forum members for no particular reason than just poor social graces AFAIK, this stuff is just the thing. For model railroad specific applications, narrowgaugers use it for "blackening" valve gear, although the result isn't really black, but that nice greasy look of an overly well oiled machine. Beware! though, because you do not want to get this or any other graphite product where it should not be. It's recommended to apply this to disaasembled valve gear. Obviously not too big a deal on the uninsulated side of your drivers, it could be a big problem if you wet the insulation on the drivers on the insulated side with it. It is very thin, but dries to leave a collodial film of graphite over everything it touches, good or bad.

 
 
I have the Neolub#2, have tried it in a couple locations and was less than impressed with what happened where I tried it.  Doesn't mean I won't use it again in a different application.  I also like the color it gives drivers and valve/drive rods.
 
I haven't been at the top of my game lately (good cold).  I finally went down into the shop and opened up the stuff I got from Litchfield Station.  To call the Aero Car ACT 3753 Conducta Lub & Cleaner a gel is a complete missnomer.  It has a slightly thicker viscosity than water!
 
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Posted by maxman on Thursday, April 23, 2015 3:23 PM

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Posted by mlehman on Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:33 PM

Yeah, this forum could use an Ignore feature for the chronically socially gritty among us.

Mark,

A couple of other products that have different apps. I've mentioned my use of CRC 2-26 before. I primarily use it in TINY amounts on the rail. It is very thin, but never had any issues with it getting in the wrong spots. I also use it on problem contacts. I have a few Shinoharas with Caboose Ind. handthrows on the oldest part of the layout which sometimes have a bit of an issues routing power through the points. I'll take a popsicle stick, wet the end and swipe it between the point and the stock rail. Really helps.

Then there's Neolube No. 2. It is an "anti-seize lubricant source of graphite film for nuclear applications..." among other great qualities printed on the label. So if your neutron bomb is a little cranky, like some commenters here are inclined to be to fellow forum members for no particular reason than just poor social graces AFAIK, this stuff is just the thing. For model railroad specific applications, narrowgaugers use it for "blackening" valve gear, although the result isn't really black, but that nice greasy look of an overly well oiled machine. Beware! though, because you do not want to get this or any other graphite product where it should not be. It's recommended to apply this to disaasembled valve gear. Obviously not too big a deal on the uninsulated side of your drivers, it could be a big problem if you wet the insulation on the drivers on the insulated side with it. It is very thin, but dries to leave a collodial film of graphite over everything it touches, good or bad.

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Posted by NP2626 on Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:42 AM
In all the reading I did on this product, I never saw one reference to the viscosity of this lubricant.  In fact there isn't much information readily available about Aero Car ACT 3753 other than the following, which I found at the websites selling the product and at Aero Car Hobby Lubricants.
 
Per Aero Car Hobby Lubricant’s website:
 
Conducta Lube Cleaner, 1 oz. bottle: Cleans and lubricates commutators and brushes. Enhances performance and extends brush life. Has been found to reduce amp draw by as much as 50%. Improves current flow through brushes to the commutator. Will enhance the capabilities of DCC operations.
 
I’m uncertain how you determined that this lubricant was Gel as there was nothing I could find explaining that it was.
 
This is a game with you RichG1998!  A game where you attempt to ascertain the superior position and rub other’s noses in the fact you feel you are superior!  It makes much of what you have to say, valueless!

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Posted by richg1998 on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 7:51 PM

The past few years many companies switched some products to a Gel formula to keep the product from flowing very far.

Some Super glues over the years became Gels. The original super glue was like water.

Google the company and read the specs if you have not done so.

Sorry, thought that was obvious

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Posted by NP2626 on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 3:49 PM

richg1998

Just to prevent any possible confusion, the Aero-Gel is not for track. 

Rich

 

Calling the stuff Gel instead of it's actual name of "Aero Car ACT-3753 Conducta Lub & Cleaner" certainly confused me!

 

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Posted by richg1998 on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 1:28 PM

Just to prevent any possible confusion, the Aero-Gel is not for track. 

Rich

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Posted by modelmaker51 on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 12:51 PM

Wahls Clipper oil is also electricly condictive, it's what we use on track to improve electrical conductivity.

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Posted by NP2626 on Tuesday, April 21, 2015 5:33 PM

richg1998

I posted it right before his message. I know you can see it. I can.

It is a link to Train Tek. Click on it. Another supplier I have bought from.

Rich

 

Rich, I bought the Aero-Car product you spoke of from Litchfield Station.  I paid $6.59 for it and bought some other stuff from them, also.  That the stuff is supposed to improve electrical contact is exactly what I was looking for.  I will be careful about where I used it.
 
I thought Blind Bruce was recommending a different product; but, maybe forgot to link to it.

Thank you for your help 

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Posted by richg1998 on Tuesday, April 21, 2015 4:29 PM

I posted it right before his message. I know you can see it. I can.

It is a link to Train Tek. Click on it. Another supplier I have bought from.

Rich

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Posted by NP2626 on Tuesday, April 21, 2015 3:02 PM

Blind Bruce

Since this product MAY be conductive, be carefull where it is placed.

 

 

What product are you talking about?

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Posted by Blind Bruce on Tuesday, April 21, 2015 11:11 AM

Since this product MAY be conductive, be carefull where it is placed.

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:06 PM

Sold and also used by Litchfield Station, a DCC company.

 

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Grease or oil?
Posted by NP2626 on Thursday, April 16, 2015 11:55 AM

Is there a grease or oil that will increase electrical continuity in moving parts?

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