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Help!! How do I wake up a Dead MRC Decoder???

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Posted by richg1998 on Monday, November 10, 2014 9:51 PM

Very simple test. With the DCC signal applied to the decoder, use your voltmeter to see if there is a DC voltage at the output of the full wave bridge rectifier. You should see 12 to 14 VDC. It is essentially pure DC because the same point is connected to the main filter capacitor.

If still nothing, good chance the microprocessor or a another digital chip is defective. The digital chips require 5 VDC but that may be difficult to probe, the chip leads are so small. I have done this but not easy.

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Posted by richg1998 on Monday, November 10, 2014 9:43 PM

hobo9941

Is it just me? I can't even read posts on Google Groups with out joining first. And then you have to wait for approval.

 

I can read post on Google Groups without signing in but not Yahoo Groups. lol

Obvious Man says join. I read the instructions some years ago.

MRC Group is quite active.

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Posted by Mark R. on Monday, November 10, 2014 9:34 PM

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Well I tried doing what Allan said and still nothing, Guess My next step will be to hard wire the decoder in and if I still get nothing then I'll send it back to Mrc

 

Hard wire it in ? How have you BEEN testing it ?

 

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Posted by Great Western Rwy fan on Monday, November 10, 2014 8:50 PM

Well I tried doing what Allan said and still nothing, Guess My next step will be to hard wire the decoder in and if I still get nothing then I'll send it back to Mrc

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Posted by Great Western Rwy fan on Sunday, November 9, 2014 9:04 PM

Thanks for the tip Allan, I just saw this post and its late here so Tomorrow after work I will give that a try, I'll let You know how it goes

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Posted by BRVRR on Sunday, November 9, 2014 8:21 AM

I've had a couple of MRC sound decoders die over the years. The first was in an Athearn Challenger. It just quit working and nothing would bring it back.

The second was a steam sound decoder in a Bachmann steamer. It quit working after 11-years.

How old is your unresponsive decoder? Some of the older models did not reset with CV125. You had to reset a series of CVs on a programming track, one at a time to reset the decoder. The following is courtesy of Tony's Train Exchange, many years ago:

CV1=3, CV2=0, CV3=0, CV4=0, CV5=0,CV17=0, CV18=0, CV19=0, CV20=2

Note: Tony says to "Make sure you do not have an advanced consist number [CV19]."

Don't know if this will solve your problem but it should be worth a try. 

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Posted by Great Western Rwy fan on Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:19 AM

Oh I should say also that I use the MRC Prodigy Express System

 

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Posted by Great Western Rwy fan on Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:17 AM

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 This decoder is the Sheer Brilliance Mini Ho EDM Modern Switch Diesel Sound Decoder with 19 Accessory Sound functions Item # 0001643

 
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How do You wake up a decoder to accept the cv values? I had this problem once with the same decoder a couple years ago but can't remember how I fixed the problem.

 

I tried every thing to reset one once. After running for about 10 seconds on channel 3 (just long enough to move it onto the programming track to change the address) it lost its little brain. I was finally so angry that I put it back in the box and boycotted Athearn until they stopped using them.  Last spring, 7 years later, I got it out and it had reset itself to factory defaults.  Works fine now.

 

Is this one of the units with the wireless DC control boxes?  If so I think one is supposed to be able to reset to factory defaults using that box and DC power.  So, if so, I'll dig out the instructions for mine that has that type of controller and pass the info on. 

 

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Saturday, November 8, 2014 11:48 PM

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How do You wake up a decoder to accept the cv values? I had this problem once with the same decoder a couple years ago but can't remember how I fixed the problem.

I tried every thing to reset one once. After running for about 10 seconds on channel 3 (just long enough to move it onto the programming track to change the address) it lost its little brain. I was finally so angry that I put it back in the box and boycotted Athearn until they stopped using them.  Last spring, 7 years later, I got it out and it had reset itself to factory defaults.  Works fine now.

Is this one of the units with the wireless DC control boxes?  If so I think one is supposed to be able to reset to factory defaults using that box and DC power.  So, if so, I'll dig out the instructions for mine that has that type of controller and pass the info on. 

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Posted by hobo9941 on Saturday, November 8, 2014 10:32 PM

Is it just me? I can't even read posts on Google Groups with out joining first. And then you have to wait for approval.

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Posted by richg1998 on Saturday, November 8, 2014 9:04 AM

There is a Yahoo MRC Group dedicated to discussing MRC products.

Yahoo has Groups for other brands of DCC products.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MRC-DCC/info

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Posted by hobo9941 on Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:31 AM

Try re entering the address. I've had MRC decoders stop responding to their address.

Despite their bad rep, All my MRC decoders are still alive and kicking, and blasting out sounds at full volume despite all efforts to lower the volume. They even blow the horn and squeal the brakes all by themselves from time to time. Whistling

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Posted by dante on Friday, November 7, 2014 11:09 PM

I am not familiar with MRC decoders, but if they have a CV that allows you to lock a decoder, check to see if that may have happened inadvertently.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Friday, November 7, 2014 10:11 PM

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a What?

He means you could put the dead decoder under the table leg thats too short so it won't wobble anymore.

If it's going to be $15 from MRC to replace, for a few dollars more you could get a new TCS1 decoder from Kleins for about $20

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Posted by Great Western Rwy fan on Friday, November 7, 2014 10:04 PM

a What?

 

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Posted by Great Western Rwy fan on Friday, November 7, 2014 6:37 PM

Not yet, But pretty sure they will have Me return it for a charge of $15 Shipping and Handling.. I would like to try to get it working without sending it back if possible

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Posted by Great Western Rwy fan on Friday, November 7, 2014 6:35 PM

Yes I did that, Still nothing

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Friday, November 7, 2014 5:22 PM

Maybe it is fried.

I fried a motherboard once.

 

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:00 PM

Did you remove power after programming and connect the power again?

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Posted by Great Western Rwy fan on Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:48 PM

Yes I tried setting the Cv to 125 with a value of 1 to reset to factory defaults, but got nothing

 

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Posted by snjroy on Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:25 PM
Did you try a reset on a programming track?
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Help!! How do I wake up a Dead MRC Decoder???
Posted by Great Western Rwy fan on Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:18 PM

Now before You start telling Me about the lack of virtues of MRC just let Me say that I have begun to switch to other decoders but, I have an MRC decoder that was working well untill the other night. The decoder seems to be dead, I can not get the decoder to recognize the cv input.

How do You wake up a decoder to accept the cv values? I had this problem once with the same decoder a couple years ago but can't remember how I fixed the problem..

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