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MV Products Question
Posted by wabash2800 on Monday, July 28, 2014 8:48 AM

I'm ready to set up a Mars Light for my Wabash Atlas GP7 using daylight yellow Surface Mounted LEDs, a Detail Associates casting and MV Products red and clear lenses.

Anyway, I have the right MV lenses but something puzzles me. The "clear" ones have a yellow tint to them. Is this something MV Products did to simulate the yellow light that older units had or did the finish yellow?

This kind of irks me as on the prototype the headlights unlighted are just plain clear. Just like the prototype, most of the time I won't be turning on the Mars light but rather using the regular headlight.

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, July 28, 2014 9:57 AM

 Perhaps they were hanging around in the shop for a long time before purchase and yellowed. I have some floating around somewhere for a project and I know when I bought them, they were clear, as clear as any other clear plastic.

 OTOH, I HAVE seen many steam loco headlights (prototype) where the glass front DOES have a yellowish tint when the headlight is off. Haven't noticed with early diesels. Modern stuff - definitely clear.

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Posted by Mark R. on Monday, July 28, 2014 11:30 AM

Yep - old stock most likely. They tend to turn yellow when exposed at length to UV light (sun or florescent lighting). Going backwards another step, it could even be a bad batch of resin they are made from and will yellow over time regardless.

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Posted by wabash2800 on Monday, July 28, 2014 12:30 PM

I wonder if a product ike this would restore them?

http://www.amazon.com/Sylvania-38771-Headlight-Restoration-Kit/dp/B00429NKWK

 

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Posted by Mark R. on Monday, July 28, 2014 12:54 PM

wabash2800

I wonder if a product ike this would restore them?

http://www.amazon.com/Sylvania-38771-Headlight-Restoration-Kit/dp/B00429NKWK

 

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You could buy a bunch of new lenses for what that kit costs !

Besides, it wouldn't work. The yellowing is the resin itself, not something on the surface. Once they yellow, there's no reversing it.

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Posted by wabash2800 on Monday, July 28, 2014 2:12 PM

Hmm. I'm thinking I should forget the surface mounted LEDs and the MV lenses and go with regular LEDs, even if I have to turn them down in my mototool.

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Posted by wabash2800 on Monday, July 28, 2014 3:24 PM

On the other hand, if I can find a clear UV protection that I can paint over a good lense before it has yellowed, perhaps that will solve my problem?

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Posted by Mark R. on Monday, July 28, 2014 3:59 PM

I make my own lenses from 5-minute epoxy right in the casting when they are too deep and have never had them yellow. I deal with a lot of different sized openings, and got tired of never having the correct size lens on hand.

Pick up a small amount of epoxy on the tip of a toothpick and run it around the inside of the opening. Use enough so you can draw it across the opening to cover it. Add one more blob of epoxy on that to form the convex lens. If it doesn't turn out right, poke it out from the inside when cured and try again. 

Micro-Scale Krystal Kleer will do the same thing, but takes a lot longer to dry fully clear.

Besides - I never did master how to easily get the foil off the back of those tiny MV Lenses !  I know a few people that can do it with their eyes closed !

For shallower openings, I just turn down some 3mm LEDs and use the tip of the turned down LED as the actual lens. This is my preferred method, but on some engines like Athearn EMD cabs, the opening is just too deep for a turned down LED to reach the outside. 

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Posted by wabash2800 on Saturday, August 16, 2014 2:10 PM

I received my Walthers order today and none of the MV clear lenses had yellowed. I also am awaiting some Krylon clear gloss UV protector and plan to paint that over the lenses in hope that will protect them from yellowing if this is a long-term issue that MV Products has not worked out.

 

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Posted by rrebell on Saturday, August 16, 2014 2:46 PM

They are a hybrid polymer (plastic).

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