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How do I restart an engine?

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, May 31, 2014 8:19 PM

 They could always use a steam engine as a pony engine to start one up, since a gas-fired pony engine won't work.

Or a hand pump to repump the air - sure it takes forever, but it can be done. Or use some horses to get it to the top of a hill and bump start it. Big rigs, pickups - but also stationary engines that could be used to run various equipment with mechanical links - thinking belt-driven machine tools and stuff like the wya iut was before each machine had its own electric motor.

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Posted by zstripe on Friday, May 30, 2014 11:24 PM

Randy,

.'' So how come no diesel engines with mechanical injection are working?''

They probably forgot to flip the mechanical pump switch to manual, before trying to start. You got one shot, with an air starter, to fire up before the air runs out. Whistling

Big Smile

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, May 30, 2014 10:36 PM

 You've also exposed the plot hole in the show Revolution. Nothing electrical works. So how come no diesel engines with mechanical injection are working? They require no electricity to run. On the plus side, they do have some steam trains they use.

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Posted by zstripe on Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:56 PM

NPO1,

It's a 1964 Ford Fairlane ''Thunderbolt'' Factory installed 427 dual quad carbs, the holes are for air-intake to the rather large air cleaner. Rated 600+ horsepower. Was street legal but not recommended. Was almost impossible to insure, without big $$$$. Big Smile

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Posted by maxman on Thursday, May 29, 2014 8:36 AM

NP01
Are the front holes by the lights for ether or NOx?

They are the exhaust ports for the reverse thrusters.

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Posted by NP01 on Thursday, May 29, 2014 8:30 AM

Are the front holes by the lights for ether or NOx? Nice looking car, I like cars of that era. 

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Posted by zstripe on Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:48 AM

Naw!...He won't need either one, the explosion will occur in the diesel cylinder of the prime mover and that is what you want. No electric needed, except for the starter and then if it has an air starter, you don't even need any electric at all. Now if it was a gasoline engine and you used too much ether, it'll blow the head off. Big Smile Oh and keep a few fire extinguisher's around, if your running Nitro Methane, now that will be an explosion. Laugh

I was running one of these in late 64, at many drag strips, back in the days when I was young. The speed days, I call um'

 
Model of the engine, that was in the car:
Funny Car
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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:28 AM

NP01!

Better have your fire extinguisher or garden hose ready!!

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

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Posted by NP01 on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 8:11 AM

zstripe
 Good for You!...I'm glad you didn't have to spray ether in the air intake, of the Diesel Prime mover. Bow

 Smile wow, did not think of that! Next time I will climb on top of the engine with some ether while I ask my son to repeatedly go to Speed Step 1. Should be easier. 

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Posted by JoeinPA on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 8:03 AM

Glad to see it worked and that you are back in business. I also run with a Zephyr and have found that while it is pretty stable a "good flush" of the system periodically keeps things running smoothly.

Joe

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Posted by zstripe on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:40 AM

NPO1,

Good for You!...I'm glad you didn't have to spray ether in the air intake, of the Diesel Prime mover. Bow

Big Smile

Frank

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Posted by NP01 on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:09 AM

That was it, Joe! An internal memory flush on the Zephyr Xtra brought the loco back to life. While I was at it, I messed around with sound programming a bit as well. 

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Posted by NP01 on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:17 PM

As far as I remember, it did not shut down the DCC system. I did hard power cycle the DCC system (twice) but have not reset the command station. I am on Digitrax. 

I will reset command station, maybe flush the loco memory of the command station first. Then go to decoder reset.

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Posted by JoeinPA on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:36 PM

I'm with Elmer on this. This is not a decoder issue but a command station issue. Try resetting your command station. You may need to clear the JMRI throttle also.

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Posted by gandydancer19 on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:56 AM

On my NCE system, if an operator shuts down the layout using emergency stop, the Enter key must be pressed from the throttle that was used to do it.

If your stop operation has shut track power off, try cycling it. (track power)

You could also ask your question on the Yahoo Group JMRI user groups.

Elmer.

The above is my opinion, from an active and experienced Model Railroader in N scale and HO since 1961.

(Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club.

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Posted by zstripe on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:40 AM

If a reset does not work as per MR.B's suggestion, take a look at page 10 & 11 on this site. It's a possibility:

https://www.walthers.com/page/Tsunami_Users_Guide_Diesel.pdf

Frank

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:30 AM

Can you read EVs?  Is there sound or lights?

I'd probably go for a full decoder reset at this point.

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Posted by NP01 on Monday, May 26, 2014 11:44 PM

Thanks MrB. Tried with no luck.  Other ideas?

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, May 26, 2014 6:25 PM

Try a couple of taps of F6.  It sound like you put the engine into full shutdown.

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How do I restart an engine?
Posted by NP01 on Monday, May 26, 2014 5:22 PM

Ok, this is a stupid question. Tsunami-equipped Genesis GP7. I was running it with a JMRI throttle (from the computer) and hit "STOP!" ... This is the button above IDLE under the verical slider for speed. I did not mean to do this, but it was a slip of the mouse. 

Now the engine won't respond to throttle when selected from any throttle (including the command station)? How do I initiate the startup sequence?

 

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