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Bus snubbers
Posted by bruce22 on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:33 PM

This was recently mentioned in " general discussions"   What is their purpose and are they necessary ? If so how many are needed. Thanks.

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Posted by Mark R. on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:55 PM

If you have a long buss run and are having trouble with engines losing or not getting their commands, a buss snubber might help the problem.

Are they necessary ? I would say no - unless - you are having trouble, then it might help. I know a LOT of people running DCC and on some pretty large layouts .... nobody I know are using them.

Mark.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:56 PM

These are for DCC beese. Older network topology required such a device otherwise spurious singal would echo in the bus. Nost network technology (Cat-5 etc.) do not require end of line devices (snubbers) since there is only one pair of devices on the wire. Not so a DCC bus, but my understanding is that most DCC systems no longer require this.

LION does not do DCC, but him has strung miles of Cat-5.

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Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:14 PM

I use them, and my bus wires run 90 feet in each direction.  I place them at the ends of the bus wires.

Some people call them bus terminators, but the proper term is RC Filter, as I understand it.

I have been told that the main reason for snubbers is to dampen voltage spikes to avoid frying decoders.

My snubbers are each made up of a 100 ohm 1/2 watt resistor and a 0.1µF 250V 10% metal-film capacitor.

Rich

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Posted by cacole on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:10 PM

We don't use them on our HO scale club layout that uses the NCE PowerHouse Pro system with radio throttles.  Our main layout room is 20 x 40 feet, and the layout extends into a second room that measures 15 x 20 feet.  All this is powered from one main DCC Command Station and 3 additional boosters.  We have never had a need for snubbers.

 

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Posted by dante on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:00 PM

Follow the recommendations of the manufacturer of your DCC system. If you don't have DCC, forget about it.

Dante

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