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New Bachmann Diesel RS3-Model 64202-DCC -Cannot change Address 3

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New Bachmann Diesel RS3-Model 64202-DCC -Cannot change Address 3
Posted by Sunshine Express on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:35 AM

I have a new Bachmann Diesel RS3,Model 64202,DCC Silent  type decoder,which runs  well on Address #3,but will not respond after Program Track regitration to it,s engine  number 5200.The message on my Easy DCC System shows it is programmed to 5200,but when put on the main track with power,it will not respond. Once again calling up #3,it runs as directed,with it,s couple of functions working also.I have had 4 Bachmann Silent DCC Diesels,and a Steam and Diesel with Sound,and  have not struck this problem before. Is there a CV that I can program to alter this ?. Thanks for any advice

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 1:26 AM

 It may not be getting CV29 set properly. Try programming the address again, and then setting CV29 to 34 (or 35 if it runs with the wrong end forward, or 38/39 if you want it to also run on DC). If it won;t respond on the selected address then, it's not taking ANY of the programming. Sometimes putting a 1K resistor across the program track rails helps the bachmann decoders program.

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Posted by ba&prr on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:09 AM

Is it this one shown in this link? If so this can only program address 01 to 09. If it's the Dynmis system go to Bachmann web site. They have a forum where you might get answers.   Joe   http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/ezcommand_2010.php

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Posted by cacole on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:13 AM

I'm not sure whether or not Easy DCC automatically sets CV29 when you change a locomotive address from long to short, or vice versa.  Put the loco back on the programming track and set a value of 34 into CV29 and see if this corrects your problem.

 

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Posted by Sunshine Express on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:27 AM

Thank you for your help which has proved this loco to have a faulty decoder.Now being returned on warranty to local dealer. That makes 6 new locos bought since 2011,all faulty.3 Athearn Genisis w/sound,1 Proto2000 w/sound,1 Hornby Thomas Silent.

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Posted by Sunshine Express on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:28 AM

Thanks for your help here. This proved the RS3 to have a faulty decoder. Now being returned.

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Posted by Sunshine Express on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:31 AM

Thanks for your help,the RS3 proved to have a faulty decoder.

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Posted by Sunshine Express on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:34 AM

Thanks for your help.This proved the RS3 to have a faulty decoder.Now being returned under warranty.Bought locally. I am new to this forum,but have been a disciple of MR from the days I could only  affords to buy second hand copies. I hope I have not replied twice ?. Very thankful from Oz.

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Posted by cacole on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 9:56 AM

You can't possibly have had that many locomotives with faulty decoders -- something else is seriously wrong with your DCC system if they keep burning out like that.

You mentioned that you are using a CVP EasyDCC system -- check your power supply and make sure you are not putting too much voltage on the track.

With a cheap digital volt-ohm-milliammeter set to the AC Voltage setting, you should get a reading of around 14.5 Volts on the track.

 

 

 

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 11:32 AM

 Yes, I have many locos that came with sound decoders, plus dozens of ones I've installed myself - NEVER had a bad one yet.

 ANother thing to check is the firmware revision on your system. CVP has updated things over time - the original system didn't even support 4 digit addressing.  Or the program track is not working. Can't measure that with a meter though, it won;t show any voltage except a brief blip when actually programming. Try programming on the main.

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Posted by Sunshine Express on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 4:44 PM

The three Athearn Genisis DCC/Sound were tested on a JMRI by an expert from a prominent Model Train Club. I have  the report from Athearn stating that the decoders were faulty,and their test report before posting back to me. The Proto  problem was handled personally by a very nice guy from Walthers,who got me to try several methods of testing,both DC and DCC. The Hornby Thomas DCC Silent,proved that a bad batch of Hornby Decoders had been found,and that fault was not apparent on initial testing by the dealer. This was a decoder added by the dealer on a new loco. The Athearn F7 Super Chief would not run 12 inches out of the box.It was not getting any current from the front truck(as tested on ther JMRI). The F7B sound unit was hopeless on the JMRI,he said he could not detect the decoder in it. None of the decoders were burnt out,they just did not respond straight out of the boxes.

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Posted by Sunshine Express on Friday, January 24, 2014 2:20 AM

Retraction and correction of the problem  I reported . with my Bachmann RS3 DCC Silent Decoder.  Randy was right ,there was a problem in my Easy DCC Programming Track.The system was bought in  2012,  and  installed by my electrician friend  who has a larger  system than mine. I did not think it was faulty,as I had programed many similar locos easily. Unfortunately since then he has survived a serious cancer operation,and is only now coming back into the hobby.He will get to the bottom of this for me. For the record I have had 5 other  locos with faulty decoders ,but the  above Bachmann  RS3, was not the 6th.. I have contacted my dealer and set the record straight there.

Thanks for all the help,it is hard when you are on your own using sensitive equipment,many of  my friends will not  touch DCC,but I have  tried since 2003, and am happy.  Owen

 

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