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Tsunami Speaker static

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Posted by zstripe on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:12 AM

Mark,

Good for You,,,,Glad you found the Problem..

Cheers, Drinks

Frank

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Posted by markie97 on Monday, September 30, 2013 9:12 PM

Thanks again everyone. To make a long story short its the speaker. Tried a different speaker in the NW2 and the problem went away (this speaker happens to be too big for the unit). Put the NW2 speaker into a different unit and problem was the same on the different decoder. The failed speaker is 3/4" diameter, 0.2W. Now I need to replace it.

Mark

 

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Posted by zstripe on Monday, September 30, 2013 3:26 PM

markie97

Hi all and thank you. Figured out the lighting issue. The bulbs were wired to FX5 and 6. They work when F5 and F6 are pressed. I can re-map to F0.

Sound issue is getting worse. Strangely enough there is less static but sound comes on and off intermittently with no explanation. Checked speaker and it looks clean. Will try a different speaker tonight from another loco.

Thank you,

Mark

Mark,

Now that explanation,you gave about the speaker,,,sounds to me like a loose wire,bad connection,solder joint,at the speaker,or the decoder..A bad connection,will sometimes,sound like static...Check all those connections,associated with the speaker...

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Frank

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Posted by woodone on Monday, September 30, 2013 3:17 PM

Mark, you have any photos of this install?

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Posted by markie97 on Monday, September 30, 2013 12:33 PM

Its a TSU-BW-1000. The weight was milled down so that the decoder fits on top of the weight/motor. The speaker is in the cab pointing down with the enclosure visible through the cab window if you look close enough.

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Posted by Mark R. on Monday, September 30, 2013 12:33 PM

woodone

Do you know which decoder was used in this install? With Tsunami TSU-750's there is no F5 or F6.

Seems like you have TSU-1000 decoder if you have F5 and F6. Sure would like to see some photos of that install. Must be a real tight fit. 

Whoever installed the decoder could have re-mapped the front and rear lights to be independant on F5 and F6 instead of having them as directional on F0.  

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Posted by woodone on Monday, September 30, 2013 12:25 PM

Do you know which decoder was used in this install? With Tsunami TSU-750's there is no F5 or F6.

Seems like you have TSU-1000 decoder if you have F5 and F6. Sure would like to see some photos of that install. Must be a real tight fit. 

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Posted by markie97 on Monday, September 30, 2013 8:48 AM

Hi all and thank you. Figured out the lighting issue. The bulbs were wired to FX5 and 6. They work when F5 and F6 are pressed. I can re-map to F0.

Sound issue is getting worse. Strangely enough there is less static but sound comes on and off intermittently with no explanation. Checked speaker and it looks clean. Will try a different speaker tonight from another loco.

Thank you,

Mark

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Posted by woodone on Monday, September 30, 2013 8:38 AM

If  this was done with putting the speaker into the fuel tank area I would check to see if some debris has been stuck to the speaker. If so clean and then cover with cloth material to protect the speaker. 

Have no ideas on the headlight issue. 

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Posted by Mark R. on Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:06 PM

Static can also come from a damaged speaker coil from being over-driven. Cheaper speakers can't handle the full volume output of a decoder - which the factories default to full volume. That's why I always make it a habit to turn the volume down to half FIRST before turning on the sound. 

I've had this happen a couple times, engine sounds great, blow the horn and damage the speaker coil. Then there is a constant static over-laying all the sounds.

Try a different speaker and see if the problem goes away.

Mark.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:06 PM

One of my friends had this problem. Turned out the speaker was wedged into a hole that was just slightly too small. He used his Dremel with a sanding disk to make the hole a little bit bigger and the static problem was gone.

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Posted by yankee flyer on Sunday, September 29, 2013 5:00 PM

Hi  Big Smile

I don't if this is your problem are not, but I had an SW8 go all static and when I turned it over the speaker magnet had picked up a piece of wire off the layout.  Took it off, problem solved.

Good luck.

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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:45 PM

 Loading a speed table should not make static sounds in the seaker where there was none before. I suspect more than just the speed step CVs were changed with this copy of another loco. If the new loco was originally at the default settings, try a decoder reset and start over. If it didn't buzz before, then it shouldn;t on the default settings. Rather than just completely copy a decoder definition from another loco, check for specifically what you want to change and make those changes. Leave the rest alone.

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Tsunami Speaker static
Posted by markie97 on Sunday, September 29, 2013 11:08 AM

Just received my HO Kato NW2 that I sent out for a Tsunami sound install and everything worked great when i shut down the other night. This morning I used JMRI software to download a speed step table from another tsunami used on a Kato engine and when i started up had alot of static and the headlights did not work. Played around reset to default settings and the only thing that seemed to help was setting the speaker size to "tiny". This helped but there is still some static. Headlights still do not work.

Any suggestions?

Thank you in advance.

Mark

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