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Headlight LED's are yellow-orange color?

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Headlight LED's are yellow-orange color?
Posted by pirate on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 10:14 AM

I recently got a Bachmann RS3, Boston and Maine, and find the head and back light LED's to be a yellow-orange color, not white at all.  What do people think of this?   Is this so unreal I should change it?  I was looking at LED's on the Soundtraxx site and they have Sunny White and Golden White LED's so I was wondering what the difference in those were.  On the Bachmann, it has a little bracket that the LED slips into, so are the sizes pretty standard?

 

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Posted by cacole on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 10:17 AM

A golden white 3mm LED will be closer to the color of an incandescent bulb and is the size used by Bachmann. If you decide to change them, take a voltage polarity measurement before removing the Bachmann LED because if you solder a new one in backwards it won't work.

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Posted by tstage on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 10:28 AM

If the one in your RS3 is 3mm then another one of the same size should fit.  It's your choice whether you can live with the "orangish" headlight or not.  I can't...so I switch them out for golden- or sunny-white LEDs.  MUCHO nicer!

The difference between the golden-white and sunny-white is subtle; the latter being slightly more yellowish in color than the former.  The biggest difference is in the physical color of the LED lens itself.  The golden-white LEDs are orange in color but don't emit the orangish light.  This is really only crucial if the LED lens will be visible when the LED is off.

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Posted by jrbernier on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 10:29 AM

  The yellow LED's are a lot less expensive that a true white or golden glow LED.  Even some of the high end models like early Kato's had them.  Several vendors have more correct LED's if you cannot live with them.  I suspect it may be a 3mm LED.

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Posted by ba&prr on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 11:15 AM

I have one of their GP7's. They have the same orange LED's. I changed them when I added sound to it.Is this a sound equiped loco? If not,the decoder Bachmann uses has the + and - signs on the decoder .If sound the wire(s) going to the LED might be color coded.Whie and yellow are the + blue is -. Joe

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 11:47 AM

 Does Bachmann wire them backwards? The blue wire on a DCC decoder is the postive wire, not negative.

 

From one extreme to another - I used to have one of the E33 electrics and it came with bluish white LEDs for the headlights. Golden white is era-appropriate for an RS3, unless it's been modernized in which case sunny white would look right.

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Posted by ba&prr on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 11:59 AM

You maybe right. I was going off  of wire the resiter gets hooked up to. I thought it was the positive side. Hence wite or yellow.  Joe 

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Posted by pirate on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 1:53 PM

So, I guess there is a difference between golden white and sunny white?  Sunny must be whiter, but still not white-white?

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Posted by tstage on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:11 PM

Yes, it's whiter than the golden-white - with just an ever-so-slight tinge of yellow to it.  Richmond Controls makes some nice golden-white and sunny-white LEDs.  Here's a description from Ulrich Models on the differences between the two.

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:19 PM

Intermountain used the horrible orange LEDs too, at least in their older models. I'm not sure what they use now.

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Posted by cacole on Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:45 AM

For those who do a lot of LED headlight installs, there is a company on e-Bay selling sunny white, super-bright, 3mm LEDs for $8 per 100.

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