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intermittent chuff sound on Paragon2

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Posted by selector on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 10:00 PM

In my best Jackie Stewart voice, "It's a grraaayt daaay when all you have to admit to is a braayn faaart instead of a smooked decooder."  Laugh 

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Posted by eds-trains on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 7:58 PM

Thanks to all. I reset the jumper plug and all works fine now.

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Posted by locoi1sa on Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:55 AM

Sorry Ed.

 The title and post said Paragon 2 and QSI. These are 2 different animals. Did your J1e come with a magic wand? My BLI with QSI I1sa has a jumper plug for a hard reset. Did you try to reset on the main? If it is a QSI decoder it will say RESET after a power interruption after doing either the 3 CVs or the reset switch.

  You say everything else works but I would still look to the plug and maybe download a parts drawing and see if it does have a chuff sensor. I know BLI had some problems with defective chuff sensors awhile back.

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Posted by tstage on Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:28 AM

Ed,

QSI is what BLI used in their earlier Paragon locomotives.  As Chuck indicated, Paragon2 locomotives use BLI's newer proprietary sound system; the same used in their Blueline locomotives.  It uses a different reset CV.

I don't have the documentation in front of me but you could try CV8 = 8 to reset your decoder, which is what most decoders reset at.

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Posted by cacole on Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:02 AM

The confusion is, you said Paragon2 in your title.  Paragon2 locomotives use a proprietary decoder that is not from QSI.

Broadway Limited used QSI sound decoders in the original Paragon products, but Paragon2 does not use QSI unless you have modified it.

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Posted by eds-trains on Thursday, January 3, 2013 9:39 AM

i'm sorry. I thought my post stipulated a QSI sound decoder.

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Posted by peahrens on Thursday, January 3, 2013 9:18 AM
My mikado does this but it' s usually due to not clean track spots or not clean contacts or wheels. I clean the drivers by running atop alcohol paper towel, the other wheels and tender axle pickup leaves with Dremel polishing. My older BLI mountain does not do this.

I reset to factory per booklet cv guidance. Maybe set cv8 to 8 if I recall.
Don't know if a button reset affects differently. When I reset and wheels are clean it does ok for awhile.

Just from my perspective.

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Posted by cacole on Thursday, January 3, 2013 9:18 AM

You need to download the technical reference manual for the Paragon2 decoders from Broadway Limited's web site.  The CVs you reset are for a QSI decoder, which is not the same.

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Posted by locoi1sa on Thursday, January 3, 2013 5:14 AM

Ed.

 I thought the Paragon 2 decoders have a reset button? I believe those CV changes are for a QSI decoder. If all else is working I would be looking at the plug to the tender and some BLI locos such as my M1a and others have a chuff sensor. It is a reed switch that picks up a magnet mounted into the flywheel. On my M1a the sensor came loose and needed to be snapped back in.

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intermittent chuff sound on Paragon2
Posted by eds-trains on Thursday, January 3, 2013 5:03 AM

My J1E 464 Broadway Limited Paragon2, with a QSI sound, shorted out when the pilot wheels went off the track. When I restarted the loco the chuff sound did not work. All other sounds worked fine. I have done a factory reset changing cv49=128, cv50=255 & cv56=113. At first there was no change so I tried again. Now the chuff sound is intermittent. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Everything else works good. 

Any Thoughts?

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Ed

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