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This loco is driving ME loco!

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This loco is driving ME loco!
Posted by Beach bum on Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:03 AM

I have a 1966 Rivarossi HO 2-8-8-2 Mallet that refuses to run on track! When connecting motor directly to power source motor/wheels run fine.  I am unable to locate a wiring diagram.  Continuity checks SEEM ok, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for. (not my strong suit). Any help may save a life! ( I have cleaned this thing from top to bottom)

                                                                                                                   

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Posted by maxman on Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:35 AM

When you put it on the track are you getting a short?  Is it possible that one of the tender trucks is turned 180 from its normal position?

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Posted by yankee flyer on Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:15 AM

maxman

When you put it on the track are you getting a short?  Is it possible that one of the tender trucks is turned 180 from its normal position?

Or both tender trucks the reverse of the engine?  Sigh

Take a deep breath and say " I'm smarter than this piece of machinery".   Grumpy

Lee

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Posted by Beach bum on Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:35 AM

I was not aware that the tender HAD to be connected in order to complete the circuit!  This was my first time testing it since receiving it as a gift. As soon as I realized this fact it ran smooth as silk. Whoever said ignorance is bliss, never lived in my house!  Thanks ever so much!

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Posted by Beach bum on Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:42 AM

My ignorance is only exceeded by my stupidity!!  I wasn't aware the tender had to be actually attached to the locomotive, that is until I remembered seeing two versions of this in the parts book, one with a wire for the tender and one with the connection on the draw bar (which is the one I have). It now runs like a dream. Thanks for your help.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:26 AM

Steam engines are always difficult beasts. It could be that a drive bar is binding when it is on the track and not on the bench. (I assume that on the bench the unit is upside down).

LION does not have steam engines as they are not compatible with subway tunnels. All I have ever been able to do with them is to put them in a park and build a fence around them.

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Posted by tstage on Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:51 AM

BroadwayLion

Steam engines are always difficult beasts...

Lion,

Perhaps, "[Older] Steam engines [can sometimes be] difficult beasts" is a more accurate statement.  My Trix 2-8-2s, Proto 2000 0-8-0, and BLI Hudsons are absolute jewels mechanically.  I've never had a problem with any of them.

My first HO locomotive was a Rivarossi 0-8-0 yard goat 10 years ago.  It lasted two days before it completely stopped working.  Took it back to my LHS and, after some discussion with the repair guy, I exchanged it for a Athearn 2-8-2 Mike.  Problem solved.

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Posted by thomas81z on Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:24 AM

most likely its the motor  flip the loco upside down & put power the the contacts & see if it turns or you get nothing ,

if you get nothing then go to www.nwsl.com & call or email them for a replacement motor ,remove & replace & you will be very happy with the new motor , riverrossi isnt known for haveing great running stuff

if you are really lost you can bring it to a hobby shop for repair but i still would call NWSL for advice, good luckThumbs Up

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Posted by thomas81z on Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:29 AM

ohh & by the way i had a 2-8-8-2 from the 60s & it ran for about 2 hours & then the motor fried so i sent it to a member on this board & he shipped to someone else & thats  how i solved my problem Stick out tongue

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:10 PM

 They were actually decent locos, the reviews from the 60's magazines are generally good. They have one major problem for modern layouts - ones that old typically had the pizza cutter flanges. They're run fine on Code 100 track but will almost certainly buzz along the tie plate and spike detail on Code 83 track, unless you hand lay. Somewhere int he late 60's/early 70's they started reducing the flanges, still larger than NMRA specs but the later Rivarossi models can run fine on most Code 83.

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