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Problem with Intermountain Metal Wheelset

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Problem with Intermountain Metal Wheelset
Posted by steamfreightboy on Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:04 AM

Hello all,

I recently began replacing the plastic wheelsets on my rolling stock with metal wheelsets from intermountain. I am using the brass insulated 33" wheelsets. Today I replaced the wheelsets on one of my cars and when I put it on the track, the sound loco I had running on the track turned off. When I looked at the controller (NCE Powercab), the display was dimmed and flickering. I found the trouble wheelset, and when I place it on the track, the axle gets hot. What does this mean? Is the wheelset not completely insulated? Also, is there any way I can fix it? Any help is greatly appreciated.

sfb

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Posted by wholeman on Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:09 AM

It sounds like you have a bad wheelset.  The plastic insulator is more than likely broken and is causing an a short.  As far as I know there isn't a simple way to fix it.  It's best to discard the trouble wheelset and replace it with a new one.  It's not worth frying a decoder or other electronic hardware over an inexpensive wheelset.

Will

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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:55 PM

 Probably indeed it's a bad wheelset, but just as a sanity check, does the car that shorted out have metal trucks? If so, you might just have one wheelset in the wrong way.

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Posted by steamfreightboy on Sunday, January 22, 2012 1:17 PM

rrinker

 Probably indeed it's a bad wheelset, but just as a sanity check, does the car that shorted out have metal trucks? If so, you might just have one wheelset in the wrong way.

         --Randy

Nope, plastic trucks.

sfb

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, January 23, 2012 4:55 AM

I'm not about to say that it could not be a bad wheelset but, in my experience, this would be a first.

I have installed hundreds of Intermountain wheelsets on my rolling stock, and I have never had a bad wheelset.

Are these wheelsets new?

Rich

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Posted by mobilman44 on Monday, January 23, 2012 6:26 AM

Hi,

As said Richhotrain, I've installed literally hundreds of Intermountain wheelsets and have never experienced a problem.  That is not to say there can't be one, but I find it surprising.  

That being said, if one runs a continuity check from one wheel to the other and its positive - that axle will hit the trash bin in record time.

ENJOY  !

 

Mobilman44

 

Living in southeast Texas, formerly modeling the "postwar" Santa Fe and Illinois Central 

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Posted by rjt909 on Monday, January 23, 2012 7:59 AM

I have seen similar problems.  Check to see if the metal wheelset is touching a bottom-mounted metal weight on the car.  should both sides of the wheelset touch at the same time, you will generate a short through the weight. 

RJT

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Posted by steamfreightboy on Monday, January 23, 2012 2:28 PM

richhotrain

Are these wheelsets new?

As far as I know. I bought them on amazon in late December from Cream City Hobbies.

sfb

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Posted by Eric97123 on Monday, January 23, 2012 3:09 PM

We had a member at my club have similar problems with a wheel set, not sure if they were your brand or not but it happens.  Dont toss the wheels, they make a great load or add them off to the side of your loco shop.

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Posted by floridaflyer on Monday, January 23, 2012 8:09 PM

Sounds like a bad set .  that's  rare with intermountain wheel sets.

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