Trains.com

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Capacitor Discharge Circuits

2308 views
4 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Spartanburg, SC
  • 1,503 posts
Capacitor Discharge Circuits
Posted by GP-9_Man11786 on Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:08 AM

How difficult is it to build a capacitor-discharge circuit for switch machines? Normally I use groundtrhows for turnout controll but I am contemplating changes to the layout that require turnouts in hard-to-reach spots.

Modeling the Pennsylvania Railroad in N Scale.

www.prr-nscale.blogspot.com 

  • Member since
    February 2011
  • 117 posts
Posted by BobH13 on Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:29 AM

www.circuitron.com

They have something for the tortise machine.  Might work for what you are considering also.  Its near the end of the products.

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: Franconia, NH
  • 3,130 posts
Posted by dstarr on Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:00 AM

GP-9_Man11786

How difficult is it to build a capacitor-discharge circuit for switch machines? Normally I use groundtrhows for turnout controll but I am contemplating changes to the layout that require turnouts in hard-to-reach spots.

Not very hard.  A CD circuit is little more than a big capacitor, charged up by a conventional transformer rectifier circuit.  They work with twin coil switch machines.  When the turnout button is pressed,  juice from the capacitor runs thru the switch machine coil, throwing the switch.  The capacitor runs down long before you can take your finger off the push button.  This extends the life of pushbuttons, since there is no current flowing when they open,  there is no arc across the contacts, and so the switch lasts longer. 

   You want at least 1000 microfarads and preferably more to hold enough juice to throw the switch reliably .  The higher the voltage you charge the cap with, the more energy it holds to throw the switches. I would use a 24 volt transformer, available from hardware stores as a furnace thermostat transformer.  That will charge your cap up to the peak  voltage (1.414 @ 24 = 33.9 volts)  Use caps rated for 35 volts or more.  The necessary caps can be scrounged out of busted consumer electronic equipment.  They are polarized caps, hook them up plus to plus and minus to minus, otherwise they will smoke and smell bad.

    If your CD supply must throw more than one turnout at the same time, you need more capacitance.  And the supply will take some seconds to recharge before you can throw a second turnout. 

   A CD supply won't throw tortoise switch machines.

 

  • Member since
    October 2006
  • From: Western, MA
  • 8,571 posts
Posted by richg1998 on Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:39 AM

Sigh.

Look a few threads below this one for Capacitive Discharged Schematic.

Rich

If you ever fall over in public, pick yourself up and say “sorry it’s been a while since I inhabited a body.” And just walk away.

  • Member since
    February 2002
  • From: Reading, PA
  • 30,002 posts
Posted by rrinker on Saturday, December 10, 2011 6:53 PM

We were just talking about them.

http://cs.trains.com/TRCCS/forums/t/199895.aspx

            --Randy

 


Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's

 

Visit my web site at www.readingeastpenn.com for construction updates, DCC Info, and more.

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Users Online

There are no community member online

Search the Community

ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
Model Railroader Newsletter See all
Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox!