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Soundtraxx old LC decoders have no DC/analog CV ?

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:14 PM

 Tsunamis can work on DC, but the older LC decoder definitely willbe destroyed if you put them on DC track.

Putting a decoder on the track with a system using zero stretching is not the same as putting it on DC track

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Thursday, September 29, 2011 5:37 PM

Appreciate the info.

locoi1sa

Some day I will put another decoder in it.

      Pete

Pete, I replaced the old LC decoder in my Bachmann 2-8-0 with a Tsunami T-1000 (medium chuff).  Nice improvement.

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Posted by locoi1sa on Thursday, September 29, 2011 5:32 PM

Matt.

 That is correct. The 2-8-0 was just sitting on the layout. It was at a train show three years ago and I had stepped out for lunch when another club member was running his Blue Box Athearn F7 on 00. Someone saw smoke coming from the tender and the layout shorted and shut down. Resetting just shut it down again. When I returned from lunch someone said my loco was shorting out the system. I took the tender shell off and saw the big scorch mark on the decoder. I put the shell back on and it is still like that today in its box. Later I found out how it fried. Some day I will put another decoder in it.

 The Tsunamis will not be harmed on DC or DCC running 00. Even if DC is disabled in CV29. It will just sit there. It is just the older LC and a few other manufactures decoders that DC will destroy.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 29, 2011 5:21 PM

Southwest Chief

 

 

 

So if I have a DCC/Sound equipped loco (Loco #1) with an LC decoder on the layout, and then I run a DC loco (Loco #2) with address 00, this will eventually cook the LC decoder on Loco #1?

Good advice if so, as I've never heard of this before. 

Hey thanks, Gentlemen, for the responses.  Now I had never heard this before either.  But I have had one LC that somehow blew the amplifier and now is simply a motion and light function decoder Sigh

I suppose it is possible I ran a DC loco when this was out on the track also....I always run my Ebay purchases once on original power before converting them.  I wonder............

 

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, September 29, 2011 5:07 PM

I have never tried running my Tsunami in the zero bit mode as I gave away the system that could do that.

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:55 PM

locoi1sa

  Same as the other replies in the answer department. I will add one more thing. The LC decoders do not like and will eventually cook when someone is running a DC analog loco on DCC using 00. I still have the decoder. It was a B280 LC in a Bachmann 2-8-0.

          Pete

So if I have a DCC/Sound equipped loco (Loco #1) with an LC decoder on the layout, and then I run a DC loco (Loco #2) with address 00, this will eventually cook the LC decoder on Loco #1?

Good advice if so, as I've never heard of this before. 

Could be why the LC decoder in my Proto 2000 GP7 stopped working correctly.  I think I could have been testing a DC loco using address 00 while the GP7 was also on the layout.  My old GP7 is on eBay, in anticipation of the new Athearn Genesis GP7s.  Although from what I've read online, my old P2K is more accurate.  So maybe I should have kept her Tongue Tied

Hope the newer Tsunami decoders can be on the tracks when a 00 address loco is being used, as I've also done this Surprise

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Posted by locoi1sa on Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:06 PM

Cisco

  Same as the other replies in the answer department. I will add one more thing. The LC decoders do not like and will eventually cook when someone is running a DC analog loco on DCC using 00. I still have the decoder. It was a B280 LC in a Bachmann 2-8-0.

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:53 PM
Same answer I gave you in the Yahoo Group. The LC decoders have never been DC capable. The info is right in the LC Technical manual. I have some LC's. I tried a couple on DC to prove a point to someone and they still worked on DCC after. Rich

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Posted by cacole on Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:39 PM

SoundTraxx LC decoders CANNOT be ran on DC power.  Trying to do so will probably destroy the decoder.

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Soundtraxx old LC decoders have no DC/analog CV ?
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:43 PM

My memory fails me from time to time, but I had thought there was a CV setting
for the old LC decoders to enable operation on DC....which I set so that I can
run them with my wheel cleaning gizmo that I power with an old DC pack. Has it
been so long since I cleaned the wheels on my locos with LC decoders?

I see in the decoder pro panel window that the tab for this is disabled because
it is not available. I guess I just remember wrongly?

(have the question in on the Soundtraxx forum too)

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