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bus wires
Posted by Life is Good on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:08 AM

My question is this ---I'm new at the DCC system---bus wiring--one straight run from the controller?  what do I do just cap the end with a wire nut?  I have tried a loop and it didn't work and I do understand now how a loop would not work due to total distance away from controller---currently I have MRC prodigy advanced squard.  Appreciate any help.   thanks.

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Posted by selector on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:49 AM

If you really could use bus wires as opposed to a couple of feeders, yes, two larger diameter wires should issue from the output terminals of your base unit, and normally they parallel the main line closely and near to it so that feeders are short.

The ends need only be kept apart and tucked securely with a retainer so that they don't dangle or come in contact with flesh or metals.  DO NOT let the two wire ends come in contact with each other.  But they don't have to be capped...just protected and separated.

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Posted by Life is Good on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:06 AM

Thank  you very much...

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Posted by gandydancer19 on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:24 AM

Yep!!  Good advice by selector.

Elmer.

The above is my opinion, from an active and experienced Model Railroader in N scale and HO since 1961.

(Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club.

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:16 AM

I just connect the ends of my buss wires to my last set of feeders.

 

                                     Brent

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Posted by mobilman44 on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:23 PM

As I have 8 power districts, I have 8 sets of buss wires.   All are cut off at the ends with some electrical tape covering the inside wire.  You could also just connect that last set of feeders to the end of the buss wires as previously suggested.

Ha, I asked the same question almost three years ago, so "you are in good company"!

 

ENJOY  !

 

Mobilman44

 

Living in southeast Texas, formerly modeling the "postwar" Santa Fe and Illinois Central 

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Posted by Life is Good on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:56 PM

Thanks again everyone appreciate the help. 

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Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:54 PM

Life is Good

I have tried a loop and it didn't work

I'm not recommending it, but why wouldn't a loop work?

Rich

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Posted by jbinkley60 on Sunday, May 29, 2011 7:58 AM

richhotrain

 Life is Good:

I have tried a loop and it didn't work

 

I'm not recommending it, but why wouldn't a loop work?

Rich

Technically it will work but generally isn't recommended.  There are cetain scenarios on very large power districts where you might see some unusual behavior.  The better option is just break the loop and place the booster in the middle and run equal distant in both directions.  I perosnally like smaller power districts for future flexibility. I have 9 right now.

 

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Sunday, May 29, 2011 8:55 AM

The actual track is a loop, so looping shouldn't hurt anything. The questionis why would you?  You could just branch out in a Y going both directions from the command station.

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Posted by jwmurrayjr on Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:15 AM

Hi,

Here's a simple example of a DCC bus that works fine, with a little bit of explanation.

http://www.trainweb.org/silversanjuan/page13.html

I hope it helps.

Have fun,

 

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Posted by Truck on Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:30 AM

Hamltnblue

The actual track is a loop, so looping shouldn't hurt anything. The questionis why would you?  You could just branch out in a Y going both directions from the command station.

That is what I did Hamltnblue and I have no issues, I figured it would be better if the current was equalized in both directions using the Y method comming from the command station. The only way I can see an issue is if you cross up your wires somewhere. And I also use the MRC PROD. ADV. SQ. 2. With computer interface, electrofrogs, & added feeders to the frogs from the tortoise switch machines.

 Truck  

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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:53 AM

 I'm trying to figure out where there would be a problem if the track bus was looped, and can't think of any. It doesn't matter. If your layout form doesn't allow any loop, then it's a waste to make the bus loop, but if your layout is like a big donut and you run the wire all the way around it's not going to hurt anything.

 The command bus for the throttles though - that's different. Most if not all of them do not allow looping. Follow the instructions with your system, don't try to 'cheat'.

               --Randy

 


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Posted by jwmurrayjr on Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:00 AM

Maybe, by "loop" he means a single wire that turns back on  itself...a dead short.  Of course that wouldn't work and should kick a breaker. Bang Head

 

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Posted by Truck on Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:15 AM

jwmurrayjr

Maybe, by "loop" he means a single wire that turns back on  itself...a dead short.  Of course that wouldn't work and should kick a breaker. Bang Head

 

Or he has a reverse loop, other than that a single wire of the same polarity that turns back on it self should not cause a short.

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