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Posted by Comrad_Durandal on Monday, May 23, 2011 11:51 AM

Of course, no offense intended.  I know when I started, I kind of scoffed at the price until the person at the hobby shop pointed out that good locomotives can last a good long time, and paying more upfront might be a bit of a bummer -  but if it runs better, you'll use it more, if you use it more, you'll enjoy it more, and if you enjoy it more - the price is worth the cost of admission.  Of course, some people might fault me for getting a Unitrack Kato set...  but it seems to have worked out in the long run, though I am wishing I could swap the C&O shells of the caboose and F7 single unit for a Union Pacific for better matching to my intended layout...

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Posted by tstage on Monday, May 23, 2011 9:48 AM

Comrad_Durandal
 richhotrain:

I agree with Selector that a "train set" is not the way to go, even for beginners.  The quality of the locomotive in a train set is usually substandard.  

I don't know about that as a hard-and-fast rule.  Kato offers a couple pretty good 'sets' that sell you an engine, some rolling stock for a decent price.  Need a bit of track - just get one with Unitrack included and you get everything to start...  granted, it's a bit plain...  but Kato makes some pretty good stuff.

Comrad,

I think the operative word used by Rich is "usually", which implies most of the time but not always.  There are a few good quality sets out on the market (like Kato) but they are generally far and few between.  Most sets, in general, are only fair quality so they won't be as robust over the long term.

Albeit more expensive, I would personally opt for buying a locomotive, cars, track, and power pack separately.  But...that's me.  A good hobby shop - with a knowledgeable staff about trains - can really help immensely in this type of decision.

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Posted by Johnnny_reb on Monday, May 23, 2011 9:25 AM

Never trust anyone selling on "craigslist". Always take it as a pig in a poke. (some thing is wrong with it) Buyer be ware.

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Posted by Comrad_Durandal on Sunday, May 22, 2011 5:46 PM

richhotrain

I agree with Selector that a "train set" is not the way to go, even for beginners.  The quality of the locomotive in a train set is usually substandard.  

I don't know about that as a hard-and-fast rule.  Kato offers a couple pretty good 'sets' that sell you an engine, some rolling stock for a decent price.  Need a bit of track - just get one with Unitrack included and you get everything to start...  granted, it's a bit plain...  but Kato makes some pretty good stuff.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, May 21, 2011 4:44 AM

If the rest of the train set is in decent condition, you ought to consider buying a more reliable engine to run with the rest of the set.  I agree with Selector that a "train set" is not the way to go, even for beginners.  The quality of the locomotive in a train set is usually substandard.  Try to find a local hobby shop that specializes in model railroading and ask the staff to recommend a reliable, yet affordable, locomotive to go with the rest of your train set.

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Posted by trainnewbie123 on Friday, May 20, 2011 3:51 PM

Thanks for your quick reply. It was bought off a lady who said her son never used it. It did look new. However, I have figured out what it was. By taking it apart I found that one of the gears had broken off in the gear box. The axle was mounted in a tiny piece of plastic which of course had snapped and sent the gear into the other gears. I took out the busted one, so it runs now, just on one set of wheels. My son wont know the difference, but I will know what to look for next time!

 

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Posted by trainnewbie123 on Friday, May 20, 2011 3:20 PM

Hi, thanks for the quick response. It was "new" but bought off a lady on craigslist who said her son never used it and it looked like it. So it didnt come from a store to return to.  The train itself is a Sante Fe Thunder set. I expected that it was not fixable but I would like to learn since my son loves trains and we are probably going to be doing this for a long while (which is good). The engine wheels do not turn and it seems as though the electricity is getting in there because it makes a buzzing sound, but definitely nothing is turning as the other poster thought. I shouldn't have said "metallic" sound, it is more like an electric razor sound. It seems as though the little motor has "frozen" up.  I got it apart and can see the motor and the weight in the middle and the other set of wheels clearly. Should all the wheels be able to be turned by hand if working? The forward set of wheels do not budge.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

 

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Friday, May 20, 2011 2:42 PM

Welcome to the forums Welcome

As selector noted, take it back if you can.  If it was used then let us know what brand and model loco you have and maybe we can instruct you on how to open it up to check for problems.  It can be a few things, usually what was noted above but sometimes just a clip or screw on a gearbox.

 Oh and when you return it, you ran it for a couple of minutes not a week Smile, Wink & Grin

 

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Posted by selector on Friday, May 20, 2011 1:51 PM

Seriously, you should return the train set.  Unless it is a top-of-the-line set, it is likely to be more trouble over the short term than it is worth to you and others who want you to be happy with it...mostly your son.

The trains these days are under warranty, some for lifetime.  If the item is rare, ask the manufacturer for a return number and package it up to send it back for repair.

Based on what you describe, you have a gear spinning on its shaft, or it is broken entirely.  Means at least a broken tooth or two, so no contact with the spinner to speak of, or the gear is actually rotating about the shaft.

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Posted by trainnewbie123 on Friday, May 20, 2011 11:52 AM

Just got first train set for son. Ran it for about a week then engine just froze up while running yesterday.

Makes a metallic sound as if power is going into engine but wheels dont seem to be spinning. What has happened? Any suggestions to fix?

 

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