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DCC Sound Equipped Locomotives on a DC Layout

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Posted by Fastball on Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:40 PM

Gentlemen,

Are you talking about the Soundtraxx DSP-80 Multi-Train Sound System with an MSRP of $595.00 in the W catalog?  Not only is the base unit price out of this world but all of the acccessories you need to get it work is crazy.  Speakers are sold seperately as are block detectors at ~$150.00 and two RX-4's at ~$50.00 (whatever they are) for each block are needed.  Each train must also be equipped at least one transponder to boot.  Does Soundtraxx really expect any one to go for this?  The world has gone nuts.     

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, May 26, 2011 6:49 AM

 Plus Surroundtraxx has been 'right aaround the corner' now for at least 6 years.

Perhaps if they rethought the need for Transponding - RR&Co does a great job of following trains using a known starting point and just block detection.

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Posted by rockislandnut on Thursday, May 26, 2011 1:17 AM

Maybe look into the new Soundtraxx Surround that is coming out this summer. ( I think this summer? ) Sounds are intended to be coming from moving locos without any sound decoders in your locos.

http://www.soundtraxx.com/surround/

On second thought I think I'm putting the cart before the horse as I think this will be operated only with DCC.

Well at least you can look into it, who knows what will happen.Big Smile

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Posted by Fastball on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:36 PM

I was afraid that was to be the case that a DC and a DCC loco would run at different speeds.  But, there is a solution since the Atlas Quantum Engineer is so cheap and that is to run a sound only loco consist when the need arises.  Going full DCC is not really an option for me since I have over 60 locos of various ages, some dating back to the early days of N scale, and some sweet Hallmark brass locos that actually run decently.  For a small investment though, I could satisfy my itch for sound.

I appreciate your reply and will ponder a decision.

 

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 8:31 PM

 No, the command swill likely make the DC loco do a herky jerky dance, plus there remains the issue of needing to turn the throttle up past half way before the sound loco even begins to move - meantime the DC loco is rocketing around the layout.

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Posted by Fastball on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:35 PM

 

Jim,

The control boxes by BLI and MRC, as well as the QE by Atlas, is hooked up to a DC system that allows use of all the sounds contained in a compatible DCC sound decoder, yes?  Do these control boxes also allow the use of an older generation DC loco and a late model DCC sound equipped loco together on the same track and be able to generate fully functioning sounds? 

I think this is a question that older DC guys like me are searching for who may not want to go all-in DCC but want a few locos with sound to make our modeling experience more enjoyable. 

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Posted by Mike Kieran on Friday, April 22, 2011 9:02 AM

OK, that's what I was worried about.

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:03 PM

 The old Soundtraxx decoders, pre-Tsunami, would not operate on DC, and in fact would be damaged. Not the case fo Loksound, Tsunami, or QSI.

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Posted by Mike Kieran on Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:13 PM

Thanks guys, I thought that I had read that the chip would burn out while perusing a thread.

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:27 PM

 No, that loco uses a QSI decoder which supports operation on DC as well as DCC.

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:07 PM

Mike Kieran

I own a Proto 2000 DCC Sound Equipped SW8 Locomotive. As I was reading the instruction booklet, it said that I could operate the locomotive on a DC layout and even operate the lights and horn using the direction switch. Can't this mode of operation burn out the chip?

You have a dual mode decoder so you'll be fine. Just use a standard DC controller. No AC.

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Posted by jrbernier on Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:16 PM

Mike,

  I have not seen it burn out the decoder, but it is a 'pain' to operate.  BLI and MRC both offer control boxes you attach to the output of power pack that allow you operate the extra sound functions.

Jim

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DCC Sound Equipped Locomotives on a DC Layout
Posted by Mike Kieran on Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:52 AM

I own a Proto 2000 DCC Sound Equipped SW8 Locomotive. As I was reading the instruction booklet, it said that I could operate the locomotive on a DC layout and even operate the lights and horn using the direction switch. Can't this mode of operation burn out the chip?

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Port Able Railway

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