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Powering a Double Crossover with Tortoises

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Sunday, January 2, 2011 3:23 PM

It doesn't really take a lot of mechanical ability.   Just the ability to bend piano wire into cranks.  Use a brass tube through the roadbed as the pivot point.

I drew this for someone on the forum a few years back with the same question.

Here is an picture of a different brand of slow motion machine controlling two points simultaneously.  This happens to be both turnouts on one side of a double crossover, but the concept is identical.

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Posted by larak on Saturday, November 13, 2010 9:23 PM

Brio Tortoise!      Come to think of it it does look like one.

The mind is like a parachute. It works better when it's open.  www.stremy.net

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Posted by locoworks on Saturday, November 13, 2010 8:37 AM

i really like Renegade1c's  'brio' tortoise   Big Smile

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, November 13, 2010 5:47 AM

rrinker

 You can however still wire all 4 up to one DPDT toggle so you only need one switch to set things for straight or crossing over. If one runs the wrong way, just reverse the connections on pins 1 and 8.

                         --Randy

 

Randy,

Good point.  You are right.

I do have a double crossover on my layout already, powered by four Tortoises Sad , and a single DPDT switch controls the movement of the entire double crossover.  As you point out, why not, there is only one passage route at a time on a divergent route on a double crossover.

Rich

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, November 12, 2010 8:07 AM

 You can however still wire all 4 up to one DPDT toggle so you only need one switch to set things for straight or crossing over. If one runs the wrong way, just reverse the connections on pins 1 and 8.

                         --Randy

 


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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, November 12, 2010 7:19 AM

Thanks everyone for your help on this issue.

After carefully reviewing the ways to limit the number of Tortoises required to power a double crossover, I have decided to spend the $30 or so to buy two more Tortoises to go with the two Tortoises that I already have available.

I am not mechanically inclined, at least not to the extent necessary to build the necessary linkage to make this work with only two Tortoises.

Rich

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Posted by Renegade1c on Thursday, November 11, 2010 10:09 AM

 

you can see what I did here. I made a linkage similar to how the tortoise works. it mounts like a tortoise and connects directly to the tortoise for movement. I used two tortoises to power the whole thing. i created two of these linkages.


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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:48 AM

 Google "tortoise double crossover", there are MANY ways to do it.

http://dixiemtn.com/

http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/3480

are a couple.

                     --Randy

 


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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:19 AM

rrinker

A crossover only has 2 valid settings - both routes cross over, or both routes go straight. You can do it with one Tortoise and a lot of linkage, or two and a little less. Depends on how mechanically inclined you are to make up the required linakge, and if it's worth your time to save the cost of 2 or 3 extra Tortoises.  With 2 Tortoises, each one operates a pair of diagonally opposite turnouts in the crossover.

                         --Randy

Randy,

Thanks.

I would like to do it with 2 Tortoises to save $30 to $40 in new Tortoise purchases.

Do you, or anyone else, have any information or drawings on what kind of linkage would be required to accomplish this with 2 Tortoises?

Rich

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:44 PM

A crossover only has 2 valid settings - both routes cross over, or both routes go straight. You can do it with one Tortoise and a lot of linkage, or two and a little less. Depends on how mechanically inclined you are to make up the required linakge, and if it's worth your time to save the cost of 2 or 3 extra Tortoises.  With 2 Tortoises, each one operates a pair of diagonally opposite turnouts in the crossover.

                         --Randy


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Powering a Double Crossover with Tortoises
Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:17 PM

Does it require 4 Tortoises to power a double crossover?

Or, can it be done with fewer, say one or two Tortoises?

Thanks

Rich

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