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Posted by steveironhorse on Sunday, September 26, 2010 3:53 PM

after alot of work  found out that the 7-6-5 internal switch on the motor wasnt making complete contact only letting 3.5 volts though  on all seven machines!! used the other contacts everything is fine now

a  friend suggested running a low current led with a 1000 ohm  off of the rotary  directly to ground  no voltage drop and indicator works

 if using tortise machines ck the contacts before installing

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:23 AM

 Since they are pull-ups in that circuit, a larger resistor might work. I didn't see this one earlier, but witht he way the Tortoises are cascaded in that deasign, the voltage to each one is already being cut, particualrly near the end of the chain. AN extra 2 votls or so for a series LED is probably going to be the breaking point where the Tortoise won't get enough voltage to move and/or actually hold the points in place.

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Posted by steveironhorse on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:53 PM

wired up 7 machines w/ 470 and the only motor to move past the center was the one first in line for the "juice" im gussing that the r needs to be move up to steer more voltage though the next machine  think ill try  the std 560 w/ the led and see it that works no yes?

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Posted by steveironhorse on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:22 AM

thx for the input  thought id ask and short cut the trail and error appoach

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Posted by larak on Monday, September 20, 2010 9:23 PM

Likely the motors will just run a bit more slowly. No harm.

You could adjust the resistor down ward by the ratio of (supply voltage - LED voltage) / supply voltage or just guess at about 470 ohms.

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Posted by steveironhorse on Monday, September 20, 2010 3:17 PM

thx  i was worried that the addition of the led might alter the load requirements on the resistors and their rating would have to be changed from the 560 that was suggested

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Posted by HOn21/2 on Monday, September 20, 2010 2:38 PM

Forgot to mention that you must run the leads to and from the LED will be quite long. My LED's are on a control panel about 10 feet from the tortoise machines. DO NOT use short cuts wilt he LEDS leads. I tried that and it took me all last summer to straighten it out. 

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Posted by HOn21/2 on Monday, September 20, 2010 12:23 PM

I used Variation B (page56) and attached a bi-color LED to post #8 on the tortoise. Reverse the leads if the color os wrong. 

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electronics
Posted by steveironhorse on Monday, September 20, 2010 11:03 AM

oliver tansey wrote an atricle  in mr may of 09 re ladder controls with resitors and slow motion machines i have used this and it works great .  does anyone know if you can wire an led between the rotary switch and  the motors  for track indication  w/o affecting the resistor ohm ratings?

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