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Problems with first decoder installs

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, August 23, 2010 9:22 PM

gondy529
I installed NCE decoders in Proto 2000 SW8 & GP9. Also replaced lights ( LED in SW8). The SW8 runs fine, but no lights work. The GP9 works erratically. Put Kapton tape on underside of decoder & made sure wires were not pinched, but after placing it on programming track, and then on layout, it runs, but at a steady, uncontollable speed ( does not respond to any of the cab commands). Tried reprogramming it several times; sometimes it works, other times just the steady speed. Light in that loco does not always work. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Set CV29 to 34 and see if it fixes your problem. This turns off the DC mode support. It's a pretty common problem to have a loco take off on it's own with DC mode support turned on and might be what you're seeing.

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Posted by WPAllen on Monday, August 23, 2010 5:55 PM

"& that the decoder had an internal resistor for such an install."

 From NCE I basically use the DSAR decoder. It has a resistor on board for use with an LED however there is a "trace" on the board that needs to be cut in order to activate the resistor. The trace by passes the resistor or short circuits it. I don't know if that is the same with the decoder you are using. Just passing the information along.   

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Posted by gondy529 on Monday, August 23, 2010 5:29 PM
The SW decoder was not plug in. First I replaced the original bulb with a recommended bulb, per NCE. When I couldn't get that to work, I took it out & installed the LED lamp. NCE's instruction sheet told where to solder ( top & bottom of decoder) & that the decoder had an internal resistor for such an install. I will examine the GP wiring & install again. Thanks.
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Posted by locoi1sa on Monday, August 23, 2010 3:56 PM

   Lets start with the SW. first. Did the decoder have dropping resistors for the LEDs? Are these hardwired installs or plug in? If it is a plug in decoder turn the plug around and see if the lights light.

  The GP sounds like it may have a stray wire strand or even a motor that has grounded to the metal chassis.

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Problems with first decoder installs
Posted by gondy529 on Monday, August 23, 2010 3:39 PM
I installed NCE decoders in Proto 2000 SW8 & GP9. Also replaced lights ( LED in SW8). The SW8 runs fine, but no lights work. The GP9 works erratically. Put Kapton tape on underside of decoder & made sure wires were not pinched, but after placing it on programming track, and then on layout, it runs, but at a steady, uncontollable speed ( does not respond to any of the cab commands). Tried reprogramming it several times; sometimes it works, other times just the steady speed. Light in that loco does not always work. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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