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Proto SD7 Fried board

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Posted by Railcon44 on Friday, April 16, 2010 7:06 AM

Hello Group,

Here is my up date. I installed the new Nce da-sr decoder in my proto 2000 sd7. Had to make some adjustments because the broad was a little to short. I used a little double back to mount the board because i was concerned of the height and the shell not fitting down all the way and that worked out just fine. I installed leds for front and rear lights. I had to extend the leads because of the short board, but they worked out great. Got everything set up and even have the lights working according to rule  17. Thanks to all of you for all the input i recieved. It really helped me a great deal.

Railcon44

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:16 AM

 And for good measure, here's a P2K SD7 with a TCS T-1 and golden-white LEDS.

 

                           --Randy


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Posted by WSOR 3801 on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:11 AM

 Stock P2K SD7 on top, one with TCS A4X below.

Fits nicely.  I think I used a little double-sided tape to hold it in place, and insulate from the metal weight.  Runs much better with all the diodes and whatnot gone.

The stock headlights are 1.5 volt bulbs, not very bright.  The A4X board has resistors on the board for LEDs, just have to solder to different points.  If using 1.5 volt bulbs, the A6X is the hot setup.  Regulator right on the board, 6 function decoder.

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Posted by locoi1sa on Monday, April 12, 2010 9:45 PM

   That's good.

  My SD9s are the original Life Like first run. I should have figured with P2K you never know whats under the hood until you open it.

    Pete

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Posted by Railcon44 on Monday, April 12, 2010 7:23 PM
I have had some very important feed back on my situation. I went on Nce web site and got the measurements of the new decoder and than took the measurements of the old decoder and the new decoder is actually shorter in length, but the same size in width and thickness, so i shouldn't have to do any cutting of the engine weights. I might have to do some mounting changes because of the length of the new decoder. I ordered the board and some led bulbs that will work with the new decoder. Now all i have to do is wait for it to get here and do some installing and setting up and than i will be back on here and let everyone know how it went. Thanks a million, Railcon44
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Posted by locoi1sa on Monday, April 12, 2010 4:19 PM

 If your SD7 is like my SD9s then the DASR decoder is not the one you want. You will have to remove some weight to make that long decoder fit and put the shell back on. Plus you run the risk of shorting the decoder against the weight unless you wrap some Kapton tape over it. A D13SRJ would be a better fit. You will need two 1K resistors and two sunny white LEDs for this decoder. Hard wired in and still replaceable with the 9 pin JST plug.

      Pete

 I pray every day I break even, Cause I can really use the money!

 I started with nothing and still have most of it left!

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Posted by jalajoie on Monday, April 12, 2010 3:10 PM

The DA-Sr is a decoder and a board all in the same unit.

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Posted by bogp40 on Monday, April 12, 2010 2:39 PM

Wouldn't this replacement board plus a new decoder add to the costs. If you are looking for quick repair, fine. I would just hardwire the new decoder as mentioned.

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Posted by Railcon44 on Monday, April 12, 2010 2:17 PM
Thank you so much my friends. I'm going to try the Nce board. I wrote their support and got an quick reply back. They said if the da-sr fits, they would use it and no need to get a resistor because the da-sr has it built in for the lights. Thankn so much for the help. Railcon44
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Posted by rrinker on Monday, April 12, 2010 8:26 AM

 If you're going to put a decoder in anyway, there's absolutely no use for the factory diode board. Get a decoder with wires and just solder the orange and grey to the motor leads, and the red and black to the truck pickups. I prefer LEDs for lights, so a couple of golden-white LEDs and 1K resistors hooked to the white and yellow and blue wires on the decoder and you're all set. You can get a decoder for the $15 the replacement DC board will cost.

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Posted by jalajoie on Monday, April 12, 2010 8:14 AM

I replaced the original board with an NCE DA-SR decoder, fits nicely. I also replaced the light bulbs with Led.

Jack W.

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, April 12, 2010 7:33 AM

  I did the same thing with my SD 7. Called Proto ? Walther's and got a new board for $15.00 or so. If you look at the Digitrax site I am 90 % sure they will have a decoder that will replaces the whole board.

         Cuda Ken

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Proto SD7 Fried board
Posted by Railcon44 on Monday, April 12, 2010 5:59 AM
I have a Proto 2000 SD7 and i fried the board on it as well as the digitrax decoder messing around with the wires to get the direction straighten out. I know i messed up. Now i need to replace the board and i'm wondering if there is a digitrax board i can use to replace the factory board and if so witch one to use? Railcon44

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