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Bad electrical pickups on a new Rivarossi Big Boy???

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HR2358 Problem solved.
Posted by WITZ 41 on Friday, March 30, 2012 3:43 PM

* March 2012 update *

RE:  Big Boy electrical issue - Solved Quickly - Very Satisfied!

I just purchased the new Hornby Rivarossi Big Boy HR2358 Cab 4017.  I also experienced electrical issues when first put on the track.  It would cycle up, start to move, interrupt, reset run a little and repeat. I checked all connections and contacts.  When the problem continued I asked my Local hobby shop owner if he had a number of someone at Hornby I could call.  He gave me the card of his Hornby Sales rep.

To save time I shot this person an email explaining the issue. 

1. I recieved a response email within hours.  When I he indicated that a tech from the west coast would be contacting me by the afternoon. 

2.  As promised the tech called me within 3 hours from that email.  He explained that they've identified a "power hog" with some of the new chips.  Basically meaning that the some of the newer installed chips would draw too much power and overload the system.  A new chip would have to be swapped out.  He explained the process clearly.  Believing I could manage this myself instead of sending in the locomotive he said he would ship a replacement chip immediately.

3.  The new chip arrived within days.  3 careful screws to remove the boiler cover.  The chip was easy to remove and install the new one.  Replaced the boiler cover.  Tested loco.  Works perfectly.

4.  I recognize we're talking about miniature and electrical, defects or bugs can happen.  I was impressed by the quick and professional assistance provided by Hornby/Rivarossi.  Now I'm happy to say I'm really enjoying my new big boy.  Thanks!

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Posted by Monty81 on Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:27 PM

Thank You to everyone for the advice and input.

 I did some research before the purchase but I didn't search the Model railroader forums or site thoroghly -- oh well, hope I can return it or I will have to modify my Big Boy.

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Posted by Allegheny2-6-6-6 on Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:05 PM

 The new Hornby/ Rivarossi's don't use MRC decoders they use LokSound 3.5 sound decoders. i have two of them and they don't get used hardly ever any more but the only problem I had was running them through turnouts at low prototypical yard speed 5mph and that was not the fault of the locomotive but rather the non powered frogs. I cured that problem and other stalling issues by using the Hex Frog Juicer from TAM Valley Depot.

Granted they can't hold a candle to my Trix Big boy but the two combined don't cost as much so there has to be a trade off some where.

Just my 2 cents worth, I spent the rest on trains. If you choked a Smurf what color would he turn?
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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:48 PM

A review of that engine in IIRC Model Railroad News last year pointed out the pick-up problem. The reviewer noted that it had trouble going thru some turnouts on his test track.

Stix
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Bad electrical pickups on a new Rivarossi Big Boy???
Posted by Monty81 on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:25 AM

PLEASE someone help me!!!

 I bought a Rivarossi Big Boy 4-8-8-4  Model# HR2099 recently with DCC and sound.  The engine is everything that I expected for detail and I love DCC now that I have it.  The only problem I noticed so far is that the electrical pickups are staggered between all axles.  Starting at the front:  the guide wheels and first set of drivers are "positive" polarity only and the second set of drivers and rear guide wheels are "negative" polarity. 

I thought that the electrical pickups would be on every axle similar to all the diesel locomotives that I own NOT staggered in this manner. 

The problem is that the locomotive frequently loses power and causes the DCC to restart and therefore the locomotive doesn't move more than a few inches and will not go around corners or the straights.

My trackwork is new, soldered and the DC locomotives run perfect.  I also tried the Big Boy in DC mode with the same results of restarting and stalling so I know the problem is power pickup related.

I was going to make my own pickup system  for the drivers so that they will always get power but first I want to make sure this is normal for a brand new $350 Rivarossi steam locomotive before I try to fix it myself or send it back to the place of purchase so that I can buy a different brand with "true" pickups on each axle (if there is such a manufacturer)

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF ATHEARN OR ANY OTHER MANUFACTURER OFFERS A BIG BOY WITH POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE PICKUPS ON SOME IF NOT ALL AXLES?????

 THANK YOU for any help!!!

--Monty81

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