As the title says, how to make it work? It is a sound equipped Bachmann Spectrum 4-6-0. I tried to change the brake from F11 to F7 but it wont move from F11. Does anyone know how they are made up? Any special tricks I should know?
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I found this document on the Bachmann web site, which may help:
http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/dwg/Sound_Decodesr_CV_DFLT.pdf
or download the Steam Sound User's Guide for the Spectrum locomotives from SoundTraxx:
http://www.soundtraxx.com/manuals/OEM%20Steam%20Users%20Guide.pdf
Can I assume you got the Shay running?
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Thanks Cacole that could help, I´ll see when I get home.
Hamltnblue; No, the shay is still "dead" , this is for my Tenwheeler.
A little update. I have downloaded the Bachmann CV profile for the Tsunami. I have crossreferenced it with the Bachmann OEM Steam Users Guide. The conclusion is that it doesn´t add up! The values are way different in the two documents, and as such they are rather worthless.
Here is a comparison of the values:
Bachmann CV´s per the manual: OEM manual CV´s in parantesis:FL_F_MAP 01 /* CV 33, FL(f) Output Location */ (01)FL_R_MAP 02 /* CV 34, FL(r) Output Location */ (02)F1_MAP 08 /* CV 35, F1 Output Location */ (08)F2_MAP 04 /* CV 36, F2 Output Location */ (04)F3_MAP 16 /* CV 37, F3 Output Location */ (16)F4_MAP 32 /* CV 38, F4 Output Location */ (32)F5_MAP 02 /* CV 39, F5 Output Location */ (08)F6_MAP 04 /* CV 40, F6 Output Location */ (64) F7_MAP 16 /* CV 41, F7 Output Location */ (128)F8_MAP 32 /* CV 42, F8 Output Location */ (32)F9_MAP 01 /* CV 43, F9 Output Location */ (01)F10_MAP 04 /* CV 44, F10 Output Location */ (04)F11_MAP 128 /* CV 45, F11 Output Location */ (64)F12_MAP 16 /* CV 46, F12 Output Location */ (128)
As you can see there is a major difference between the values, keep in mind that if I program the OEM manual values, then the sound effects doesn´t match at all.
My programmer can´t read the Bachmann Tsunami, wich is strange as it can read the normal Tsunami, so I can´t read the decoder and see what values are programmed.
So I am a little confused right now. If someone can shed some light here it would be really nice.
Graffen My programmer can´t read the Bachmann Tsunami, wich is strange as it can read the normal Tsunami, so I can´t read the decoder and see what values are programmed.
Perhaps the Bachmann Tsunami is locked. I don't have any of these to verify, but it's possible that Bachmann locked the decoder. With QSI and TCS decoders, CVs 16 and 17 can be used to lock and unlock a decoder. Dig into the document from SoundTraxx to see if these CVs are supported in the OEM version.
As a last resort, you might need to contact SoundTraxx and ask for their help.
http://www.soundtraxx.com
I've never had to contact them but have heard that they do respond to e-mail questions.
Thanks for the reply Cacole. There is no decoder-lock in use as far I can see in the manuals. As for the Support at Soundtraxx, I have mailed them (twice) but haven´t heard from them...
Since SoundTraxx makes and programs the decoders for Bachmann, I'd be more inclined to go with their CV values than those provided by Bachmann.
I tried the Soundtraxx CV´s and they make a really strange sound-mapping! If I want Dimmer on F5 I get nothing, and if I want dynamo on the light (F0) I get no bell on F1!?!
Is it maybe something wrong with the decoder? It seems strange, as it works flawlessly as long as I don´t try to remap it.
GraffenThanks for the reply Cacole. There is no decoder-lock in use as far I can see in the manuals. As for the Support at Soundtraxx, I have mailed them (twice) but haven´t heard from them...
The following copied from the Soundtraxx manual listed at the top of this thread may be useful, in ascertaining whether there is a decoder lock or not in place on your decoder:
If You Forget the Lock CodeAs there are only eight possible combinations, you can easily determine aforgotten Lock Code setting using trial and error with the following procedure:Place the locomotive on the Programming Track and set CV 15 to 0. Thentry to read the value in CV 16. If CV 16 does not read back, the decoder islocked. Set CV 15 to 1 and try reading CV 16 once more. Again, if CV 16does not read back, the decoder is still locked. Program CV 15 to 2 and tryreading CV 16 again. Continuing in the manner, you should eventually findthe value stored in CV 16 as it can only be programmed between 0 and 7.If you have tried setting CV 15 to all eight values between 0 and 7 and thedecoder still does not respond, there may be a problem with the installation,the program track or the decoder itself and further investigation will berequired.If you do not have access to a programming track with read-back capabilities(or are uncertain as to whether it is working properly) you can also useoperations mode to discover the Lock Code by alternately programming CV15 and setting another CV to a value where there is a known response. Forexample, changing CV 128, the master volume control, will provide auditoryfeedback as to whether the decoder is unlocked by virtue of a change insound level. Thus, you would begin by setting CV 15 to 0 and then settingCV 128 to 0. If the volume does not fall to zero, the decoder is locked. Thenset CV 15 to 1 and try programming CV 128 again. Repeat this process untilyou find a value for CV 15 that results in a change in sound volume as youchange CV 128.
Further down the pdf document there is the function map, although not all functions are bold typed. If there are still problems it might be worth trying a reset of the decoder (CV30=2 or CV8=8 - both seem to work for this decoder according to the manual).
Regards,
Ian
As I said above, there is no lock in use. I have altered speeds and other CV´s, it is only the function mapping (and adress change) that doesn´t work as it should. The functions doesn´t make any sense at all when changes with CV values from the manual and the adress wont be changed either.
I got a reply from Soundtraxx service department (service is the word), saying that I should change CV 30 to 0. I did so and what do you know, it works! Now it was no problem to remap the functions to my preferred buttons.
The problem with changing adress however, is due to the fact that my programmer can´t supply enough "juice" to the decoder. I think I have to take it to my friend, as he has a different setup, to give it a different adress.
It´s really nice with companys who can actually help their customers, Soundtraxx has my support from now on!
(Other decoder Mfg´s I have contacted regarding support or service in the past never replied....I haven´t bought any more from them since then either )
Graffen The problem with changing adress however, is due to the fact that my programmer can´t supply enough "juice" to the decoder.
The problem with changing adress however, is due to the fact that my programmer can´t supply enough "juice" to the decoder.
It's nice to hear that SoundTraxx answered your question and was able to solve your programming problem.
I've never been unable to change the address on a Tsunami using Ops Mode (Main Line) programming instead of the programming track, using an NCE 5 Amp Power Pro system. Programming track output is reduced in strength, but not Ops Mode programming, so try that method.
Depending on which type of DCC system you have, you may need to change the value in CV 29 as a separate step if you're trying to change to a long address, in order for the decoder to recognize the new address. I usually give CV 29 a value of 34 to disable DC operation.