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Stranded vs. Solid with suitcase connectors

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Stranded vs. Solid with suitcase connectors
Posted by Neil K on Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:57 AM

I see posts comparing solid and stranded wires, and I see posts comparing makers of suitcase connectors.  Can anyone tell me I won't regret using suitcase connectors on my stranded wire?

MicroMark's technical advisor told me today that he doesn't recommend his product with stranded wire.  I'm committed to stranded bus wire (16g).  I prefer to keep the 50 soldered track feeds already in place made of stranded wire (also 16g).

Would I come to regret using suitcase connectors? 

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Posted by cacole on Thursday, January 21, 2010 9:16 AM

 Instead of suitcase connectors I use terminal blocks and crimp-on terminals.  If you use the wrong (too small) size suitcase connector with stranded wire it cuts strands and diminishes the current capacity of the wire.

Why are you purchasing from Micro-Mark -- suitcase connectors are much cheaper from many local sources such as Wal-mart or an automotive parts dealer, Home Depot, Lowe's, etc.

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Posted by rxanand on Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:03 AM

I don't know why MicroMark would have told you that. You should take a look at the official documentation from 3M. For example, the documentation for Scotchlok 558 that I use all over my layout (with 22 AWG hookup wire) says:

22-16 AWG Solid or stranded, tinned or untinned (.5-1.5 mm2 str.) copper conductors. For use with common thermoplastic insulated wires such as: T, TF, TFF, TFN, TFFN, AWM, TEW, SAE-GPT with a maximum insulation diameter of .120 inches (3,0 mm). Maximum recommended current for general purpose applications: 22 AWG - 3 AMPS, 20 AWG - 4 AMPS, 18 AWG - 7 AMPS, 16 AWG - 10 AMPS.

You can read the document here.

Just do a Google search. You can find these connectors from many distributors.

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Posted by pastorbob on Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:08 AM

I have both, don't see any difference as far as troubleshooting or maintenance.

Bob

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Posted by jamnest on Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:52 PM

I use both standed and solid wire.  I use terminal blocks, and suitcase connectors.  No problems.

Jim, Modeling the Kansas City Southern Lines in HO scale.

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Posted by gpa on Friday, January 22, 2010 1:43 PM

I have 14AWG stranded bus lines and 22AWG solid feeders. They are connected by suitcase connectors from Fry's ($9.99 per 100). I have had no problems.

When you remove them, they do leave a gap of exposed and crunpled wire, however I have never seen the wire strands break.

 Greg

 

 

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Posted by darrel480 on Friday, January 22, 2010 9:10 PM

I use red suit case connectors for all track connections.  Never had a problem til a few weeks ago when I bought some 3M connectors. They recently changed the design of them and they are hard to snap shut and they cant be reused.  I get mine now either at Radio Shack or Walmart.  Cheaper than 3M too.  As for type of wire, I use stranded.  Never tried solid wire.

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