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Steam Exhaust sound Generator

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Steam Exhaust sound Generator
Posted by kamel on Monday, January 18, 2010 10:10 PM

Hi Guys. I recently came across an old copy of 'Practical Electronic Projects for Model Railroaders' by Peter Thorne, published by Kalmbach Books 1974/75. Page 23 illustrates an on-board circuit for a Steam & Exhaust sound generator. I attempted to build the circuit with my limited knowledge, but despite several attempts, could not make it work. It is very vague in the application of an amplifier for the circuit in not listing any connection numbers.  I have tried 8 pin amplifiers & 5 pin amplifiers without success. Is anyone familiar with this book/circuit ?? Has anyone ever built this & made it to work ?? Is an updated circuit available ?? Your help is much appreciated. I model in G & a few locos are lacking in sound.

Regards Ted

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:05 AM

 The section on sound is mainly an exercise in theoretical approaches, for example the movable drawbar is actually John Armstrong's idea that he wrote about in an MR article. Some of Thorne's circuits are also somewhat iffy, particularly the SSF lighting generators - there was an analysis article in MR not long after the book originally came out. A lot of those early sound circuits relied on leakage through one of the transistors to generate the hiss - modern substitutes might be 'too good' and not generate the desired effect.

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Posted by ShortCircuit on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:39 AM

While not an Electronics Whiz, I built the small supersonic-frequency (SSF) generator that Thorne called the Headlight brightness booster. That worked just fine and was only "retired" when moving to DCC from DC operation.

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Posted by GRAMRR on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:09 AM

I remember that around 1970-80 some of us used an 8 pin DIP white noise generator.  It was turned off & on by a cam or conductive tape segments on a driver.  As I remember, it drove a small speaker directly.  It didn't sound bad for it's day.  I had some of the ICs and have been looking all over the house for them but can't find them.  I had thoughts of trying them again.  Anyone have a memory of these 8 pin ICs?

Chuck

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Posted by P5se Camelback on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:53 AM

I still have enough of those electronic Steam Sound kits to "sound up" two locos somewhere in my electroncs parts box.  I think they were marketed by an outfit called "Microtronics" and had such things as "Single Air Pump," "Double Air Pump," "Blow down," etc.   They did sound pretty good for their day.

Bil

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Posted by kamel on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:56 PM

Many thanks for the help. I'll have to keep searching, unless Bill wants to part with one of the kits. A circuit diagram would probably do the job

Regards Ted

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