I looked at the PDF file at Broadway, and with 151 pages I did not find the answer. I am have different light problems with two different engines.
CSX, lights are dimmer than my UP 6000
CSX, number boards are not lite.
UP, number boards and ditch light's are bright but no head light.
Any one know which page these CV's are on in the PDF file? Or just have the CV's for light control?
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Next, can I speed match the Blue Lines like normal engines or do I have to do some thing different? I am not going to MU them.
Thanks for the coming answers!
Cuda ken
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The default is for the Blue Line sound decoder to control the lights. When you install a motor decoder, there is a jumper plug that needs to be moved to a different location for the motor control decoder to control the lights.
If you have installed a motor control decoder and changed the Blue Line sound decoder's address to match, it will no longer control the lights.
I never could get a Blue Line or add-in motor control decoder to properly control all the lights That's just one of the things you have to put up with when you buy the Blue Line.
cacoleWhen you install a motor decoder, there is a jumper plug that needs to be moved to a different location for the motor control decoder to control the lights.
Carole, thanks for the lone answer. You are right to a point, if you want the Decoder to control the lights you must move the 4 plug from socket J1 and move it to plug J7. For what reason my plug 4 is to short and will not reach the J7 socket. So it is still controlled by the Blue Line decoder.
Thanks for the effort.
Ken
cudakenFor what reason my plug 4 is to short and will not reach the J7 socket.Ken
For what reason my plug 4 is to short and will not reach the J7 socket.
I had the same problem. The wire is long enough, but is jammed into the shell so tightly that you really have to pull hard to get it to reach.
cacole cudaken For what reason my plug 4 is to short and will not reach the J7 socket. Ken I had the same problem. The wire is long enough, but is jammed into the shell so tightly that you really have to pull hard to get it to reach.
cudaken For what reason my plug 4 is to short and will not reach the J7 socket. Ken
Also this is the reason not to use decoders with integrated plugs (i.e. DH163IP etc..) but to use those with short plug wires on then. With the integrated plugs the decoder covers the J7 socket.
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jbinkley60 Also this is the reason not to use decoders with integrated plugs (i.e. DH163IP etc..) but to use those with short plug wires on then. With the integrated plugs the decoder covers the J7 socket.
Thats not my case, I am using a N scale decoder that has wires that plug into the socket.
Guess it is time to post on the main board, some one besides me has to run Blue Line?
Thanks again for the few replies I have received.
Cuda Ken
cudaken I looked at the PDF file at Broadway, and with 151 pages I did not find the answer. I am have different light problems with two different engines. CSX, lights are dimmer than my UP 6000 CSX, number boards are not lite. UP, number boards and ditch light's are bright but no head light. Any one know which page these CV's are on in the PDF file? Or just have the CV's for light control? __________________________________________________________________________________ Next, can I speed match the Blue Lines like normal engines or do I have to do some thing different? I am not going to MU them. Thanks for the coming answers! Cuda ken
Ken,
For speed matching, that is a function of your motor controller, not the light/sound controller in the 6000. I believe you are using DZ143PS or similar decoders, like I do. If so, you have the standard speed controls available, including speed tables. I can't tell by your response if you've been able to move light control over to the motor controller or not. CV159 and CV160 are the main lighting CVs on the Bluelines. Secondary light control CVs are CV161-CV164, CV208 and CV225 .
jbinkley60For speed matching, that is a function of your motor controller
Jeff, I know the speed matching is done with the motor decoder. Question I was trying to get across is do I have to disable the sound decoder, then speed match. Or can speed match with sound decoder enabled?
jbinkley60I can't tell by your response if you've been able to move light control over to the motor controller or not.
I could not move the plug, so lights are still controlled by the sound decoder. I am afraid to yank on the wires any harder than I have all ready. The 6000's are the only engines I cannot get the shells off of with out great difficulties. Only time I took one a part (UP) my number boards LEDs stopped working and had to send it back to BLI.
On CV's 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, and 164 states in the owners manual see the Tech Manual. I am guessing that is the manual I found on the BLI website.
jbinkley60I looked at the PDF file at Broadway, and with 151 pages I did not find the answer.
Guess I should have said, I could not find the page that had the CV's and the values I need.
Thank you so much for trying to help me Jeff. I hope you have a better understanding of what I am trying to do now.
cudaken jbinkley60For speed matching, that is a function of your motor controller Jeff, I know the speed matching is done with the motor decoder. Question I was trying to get across is do I have to disable the sound decoder, then speed match. Or can speed match with sound decoder enabled? jbinkley60I can't tell by your response if you've been able to move light control over to the motor controller or not. I could not move the plug, so lights are still controlled by the sound decoder. I am afraid to yank on the wires any harder than I have all ready. The 6000's are the only engines I cannot get the shells off of with out great difficulties. Only time I took one a part (UP) my number boards LEDs stopped working and had to send it back to BLI. On CV's 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, and 164 states in the owners manual see the Tech Manual. I am guessing that is the manual I found on the BLI website. jbinkley60I looked at the PDF file at Broadway, and with 151 pages I did not find the answer. Guess I should have said, I could not find the page that had the CV's and the values I need. Thank you so much for trying to help me Jeff. I hope you have a better understanding of what I am trying to do now. Ken
You can speed match with the sound decoder enabled. Here's the link to the detailed decoder manual.,
Thanks for the effort Jeff! This a copy and paste from the link. Need translation!
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Hum, I thought the Loksound manual was hard to understand!
Try right clicking on the link and saving (Save Target As) the PDF file to your hard drive, then open it. There may be an issue with your browser PDF plugin. What browser are you using, Internet Explorer ?
There's another thing. In order for the decoder to fit correctly and not be in crooked, use the spacer that came with the engine. It just raises the engine an eighth to quarter of inch.
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HamltnblueIn order for the decoder to fit correctly and not be in crooked, use the spacer that came with the engine.
Hamilton, that will not be a problem with the N scale decoder I use.
Jeff, I am using Explorer 8 and just try to down load the file. Note I said tried.
Guess it is time to pick thought the 151 pages at BLI and see if I can find the need information.
Main thing was answered and I now know how to speed match them.
Thanks, Ken
Kem, you need to install a PDF reader, either Foxit or Acrobat, then when you click on such files they will open properly and display readbale words and numbers - it may not help with the understanding
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Actually the spacer helps with my NCE N scale decoder. If you cant move the plug after that, consider cutting and adding some to it.
I've had 2 bluelines, (only 1 now) and the secret to them is learning CV15 and CV16. These allow you to lock the sound decoder while you tune with the motor decoder. Nothing will be easy with the bluelines but they're worth the trouble.
I also set the vmax of mine to about 200. What this did was make the top speed slower than other engines of similar size. That makes it easier to speed match. It's hard to speed match an engine that goes faster