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Posted by TomDiehl on Sunday, December 27, 2009 12:10 PM

cxsroch07

 I understand the "why" of a reverse loop, the question I posed is why you intertwined two of them. Doing this will be an operating headache, as well as a wiring headache, no matter whether you use DC or DCC. You'll only be able to have one train in either of the loops at one time. They aren't separate sections of track.

 

well first off my layout is in the attic n i want my trains to go all around the attic but then i said how can i get them to turn around without picking them up so i made the loop on top of each other its like a dog bone the only thing the loops are together one going one way the other going the other way but if i illiminate one loop then i cant turn that trains around it will stay just goin in one direction 

You don't seem to understand the question I'm posing, so I'll explain a simple change. Your attic seems to have a long enough run to put a gradual grade in the part that runs between the loops. As your reply implies, put one loop on top of the other, not on the same level as each other. Stacked, not intertwined.

The other option is, you have a simple loop around the attic if you eliminate the two intertwined reverse loops shown in the top photo.

Smile, it makes people wonder what you're up to. Chief of Sanitation; Clowntown
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Posted by cxsroch07 on Sunday, December 27, 2009 7:22 AM

 I understand the "why" of a reverse loop, the question I posed is why you intertwined two of them. Doing this will be an operating headache, as well as a wiring headache, no matter whether you use DC or DCC. You'll only be able to have one train in either of the loops at one time. They aren't separate sections of track.

 

well first off my layout is in the attic n i want my trains to go all around the attic but then i said how can i get them to turn around without picking them up so i made the loop on top of each other its like a dog bone the only thing the loops are together one going one way the other going the other way but if i illiminate one loop then i cant turn that trains around it will stay just goin in one direction 

 

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Posted by TomDiehl on Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:01 PM

cxsroch07
the answer to the "  why " is i want to turns trains around an not pick them up you know by hand so i want them to turn on there own also do isulate the turnout in front or at the back im confuse here very confuse SadSad

 

I understand the "why" of a reverse loop, the question I posed is why you intertwined two of them. Doing this will be an operating headache, as well as a wiring headache, no matter whether you use DC or DCC. You'll only be able to have one train in either of the loops at one time. They aren't separate sections of track.

Smile, it makes people wonder what you're up to. Chief of Sanitation; Clowntown
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Posted by cxsroch07 on Saturday, December 26, 2009 11:32 AM
the answer to the "  why " is i want to turns trains around an not pick them up you know by hand so i want them to turn on there own also do isulate the turnout in front or at the back im confuse here very confuse SadSad
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Posted by TomDiehl on Friday, December 25, 2009 7:18 PM

The first thing I'll say is your track layout is going to be a nightmare to wire, with DC or DCC because you have two interconnected reverse loops. You need insulated rail joints at the frog end of all your switches that lead into these loops, and the loops need to be their own block. For DC, they'll need their own reversing switch, for DCC, their own reversing unit.

But looking at the way the tracks are interweaved, I'd have to ask "why?"

Smile, it makes people wonder what you're up to. Chief of Sanitation; Clowntown
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Posted by Doc in CT on Friday, December 25, 2009 10:39 AM

 Don't forget to deal with the diamond crossing in the center of the track plan (for a reference see http://smallphry.com/eecore/index.php/site/2008/02/ )

Co-owner of the proposed CT River Valley RR (HO scale) http://home.comcast.net/~docinct/CTRiverValleyRR/

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:00 PM

selector
  Or, spend $40-80, depending on what you get and from whom, for a digital electronic reverser that does it all for you.

Note, though, that these auto-reversers are designed for DCC use.

Are you in DC or DCC?

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Posted by selector on Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:04 PM

You need to upload your images onto a webhost such as photobucket and then link to the full sized images here using the [img] tags.

Your loop should be gapped at each end, where the ends meet the one turnout.  Then, feed that length of loop with its own feeders, but wired through a double-throw/double pole switch that reverses polarity.  That's if you want to do this on the cheap and manually...as many of us do.  Or, spend $40-80, depending on what you get and from whom, for a digital electronic reverser that does it all for you.  Same thing, wired in series into the feeders for the loop.

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wiring for reverse loop
Posted by cxsroch07 on Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:19 PM

 i have this problem an need help im so confused with this i have a layout that returns on its self like a dog bone but i say better lol well i wanna know how can i have my train run on the reverse loop without turning my system off also how in the world do i put pictures in here so ya can see what im talkin about o well if someone can help let me know thx

im using dcc an its ho scale the tracks are gapped at each end of each turnout so what else i need to do my dcc systek is atlas for now but i plan on getting digtrax or lenz witch is better for me cuz i can use the atlas control ( walk around ) thx again 

 

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