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Posted by partimelarry on Monday, February 22, 2010 12:12 PM

 Does the TCS work good in the Bachmann DCC locos. Or Should I use the NCE Bach-Dsl decoders. Or does it evan matter.

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Posted by paxton58 on Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:45 PM

Thanks Mike.  I plugged in a T1 and the lights worked fine.  I agree that TCS products are ok.  I have only been doing this for 5 months and used the DH123AT to get started and with the exception of a couple of specific decoders for specific locos, I have used the T1 with no problems.

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Posted by jondrd on Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:52 AM

Crap? Absolutely not, I've installed several in various locos and with BMEF they are exceptional. Whoever told you they are crap must be pushing another decoder product line. You would be doing yourself a favor by striking off your info source list whoever told you TCS decoders are crap! Only crap involved here is the info you got.

Tjsingle
i heard some tcs decoders are crap, is this true?

 

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Posted by WSOR 3801 on Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:46 AM

 The factory lights should work just fine. 

This is what the inside should look like (this is a MP15AC, but the SW1500 should be similar) :

The T1 (or other 9-pin decoder) should plug right in, as shown, after the dummy plug is removed.  These boards also have a 8-pin plug, if you want to use one that plugs in there.  The dummy plug off the 9-pin plug needs to be removed, however.  On this one I unsoldered and removed the 8-pin plug to give extra room.  It is a tight fit in there.

If the engine has extra lights (SP light package or strobe, for instance), a T4X or T6X (or equivalent) would plug into the 9-pin, and if the engine is wired up right, the extra lights should work.   

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Posted by paxton58 on Saturday, February 20, 2010 10:27 PM

Will the factory lights work with the T1 or would a DH165IP or DP2x allow the factory lights to work if the T1 doesn't?

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, December 9, 2009 7:15 AM

 Get yourself a TCS T1A (a buck cheaper because it has NO harness), pull the little board attched to the 9 pin pigtail, replace with said TCS decoder - you're done.

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Posted by cacole on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:56 PM

Tjsingle
i heard some tcs decoders are crap, is this true?

 

You heard wrong, from whomever told you that.  I've installed nearly 100 TCS decoders of all varieties in various models for club members and have never had a bad one.  NCE decoders are also an excellent choice.

 

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Posted by wholeman on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:33 PM

simon1966
Tjsingle
i heard some tcs decoders are crap, is this true?

 

I have 5 TCS decoders installed about all of my locos and have never had any trouble with them except for one.  What happened with the bad one was that the motor had shorted out and caused the motor control to quit.  I sent the bad one to them and they sent me a new one no questions asked. 

I have never had a bad one since.

Will

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Posted by Tjsingle on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:22 PM
simon1966

Tjsingle
i heard some tcs decoders are crap, is this true?

?  well I imagine that they have had some bad ones at some time or another, just as I imagine that Digitrax and NCE have had the odd bad one as well, but IMO TCS makes some of the finest decoders available.  If by chance you happen to get a defective one, or if you make a mess of the installation and destroy the decoder, TCS will replace it for free.  TCS decoders are the ones I like to install, especially when I want good low speed performance.  The automatic BEMF they have is really very good for low speed control.

Yeah I need low speed for my switching operations
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Posted by simon1966 on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:17 PM

Tjsingle
i heard some tcs decoders are crap, is this true?

?  well I imagine that they have had some bad ones at some time or another, just as I imagine that Digitrax and NCE have had the odd bad one as well, but IMO TCS makes some of the finest decoders available.  If by chance you happen to get a defective one, or if you make a mess of the installation and destroy the decoder, TCS will replace it for free.  TCS decoders are the ones I like to install, especially when I want good low speed performance.  The automatic BEMF they have is really very good for low speed control.

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Posted by Tjsingle on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:13 PM
i heard some tcs decoders are crap, is this true?
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Posted by wholeman on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:03 PM

A TCS T1 should fit quite nicely. 

Will

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Posted by Tjsingle on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 8:58 PM
its rtr, no sound in these guys, just a dcc plug one for 9 pin and the other for 8 pin decoders
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Posted by nfmisso on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 8:50 PM

Buy it with a factory installed sound decoder.

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Need decoder help!
Posted by Tjsingle on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 7:41 PM
I am going to buy a new rtr sw1500 and I would like to get it a nice decoder any ideas, i run NCE powercab.

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