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Adding DCC to Athern DC loco

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Adding DCC to Athern DC loco
Posted by stocksj on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:49 PM

Hi,

 Last weekend I bought an Athern "Blue box" Amtrak P42 loco for about $40. I'd like to convert it to DCC and possibly sound. What you be a good decoder to buy and install?

 

 Thanks,

 Jim

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Posted by stocksj on Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:14 AM

How about Digitrax decoders? Someone mentions a model 165 or 163 decoder?

 

Thanks,

 

 Jim S.

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Posted by wholeman on Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:01 PM

I am going to agree with David on the Digitrax.  I heard one the other day and it didn't sound too good. 

I have Loksounds installed in my P42s.  These have the P42 sound scheme loaded into them including the unique sound of the compressor.

Will

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:12 PM

Only a few people have managed to get anything close to the full potential out of the Soundbug, unfortunately. If you check the Digitrax Sound Yahoo Group you will find those people. The problem is, it is extremely difficult to achieve what they have done, far beyond just getting good source sounds and making smooth cuts. With other user-programmable decoders (Loksound), you have o learn how to do good sound edits. With the Digitrax sound decoders, you need to be a sound editor AND a microcontroller programmer. I don;t know why they even bothered makign sound decoders, other than to prove they could (or rather, for AJ to prove he could), and to have the option of offering the whole system, from controller to decoder, sound as well as non-sound. Support for the sound decoders is minimal at best, although there is a new aprt-time guy who is focused on developing better sound projects - personally I think they should hire Fred Miller, his Peter Witt trolley is one of the examples of how much more the decoder can do than the projects available to download on the Digitrax site.

 I wouldn;t trade my Digitrax system for anything, Loconet blows all the others away. But the only Digitrax decoder I own is a Soundbug I got to play with. I find the motor decoders generally overpriced compared to NCE and TCS, and the TCS ones have a far superior BEMF. For non-BEMF you can't beat NCE's D13 series. And the D13SR/SRJ costs LESS than the cheapy decoders from Bachmann and MRC (yes, MRC has motor-only decoders).

                                       --Randy

 


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Posted by stocksj on Friday, November 13, 2009 6:57 AM

I was reading another thread about someone needing to add DCC to an older Athern Blue box loco. I saw something about a clip-on DCC harness from Digitrax. Is it still made and what part number is it? I want to KISS the hold process of adding DCC. I'll skip the sound for now.

 

 Thanks,  Jim

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Posted by AltoonaRailroader on Friday, November 13, 2009 3:15 PM

stocksj

I was reading another thread about someone needing to add DCC to an older Athern Blue box loco. I saw something about a clip-on DCC harness from Digitrax. Is it still made and what part number is it? I want to KISS the hold process of adding DCC. I'll skip the sound for now.

 

 Thanks,  Jim

This is about as KISS as it gets, but David is right, it still takes a little work to isolate the motor from the frame. The first link is a link to what you're looking for. The second link is a great article to help tune up your Athearn loco.

http://www.litchfieldstation.com/xcart/product.php?productid=2450028&cat=0&page=7

 

http://www.mcor-nmra.org/Publications/Articles/Athearn_TuneUp.html

 

Good luck. BTW, that harness is only good for the Digitrax decoders, DH123D and DH165D I think it is. 

 

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:15 AM

AltoonaRailroader

Good luck. BTW, that harness is only good for the Digitrax decoders, DH123D and DH165D I think it is. 

 The Digitrax Athearn harness works with ANY decoder with a 9 pin JST socket - like a TCS T1 or an NCE D13SRJ.

                                                  --Randy

 


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Posted by pastorbob on Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:21 AM

rrinker

AltoonaRailroader

Good luck. BTW, that harness is only good for the Digitrax decoders, DH123D and DH165D I think it is. 

 The Digitrax Athearn harness works with ANY decoder with a 9 pin JST socket - like a TCS T1 or an NCE D13SRJ.

                                                  --Randy

 

ABSOLUTELY TRUE

Bob Miller http://www.atsfmodelrailroads.com/

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