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Posted by billy21 on Monday, May 25, 2009 8:10 PM

I got the new Paragon 2 HO 2020 4-6-4 w/DCC & sound to-day. The problem I am having is it won't move on the track or make any sounds. I have the Digitrax Zephyr operating system. The booklet I received with the locomotive says that the factory default address is 3. When I program the number 3 into the Zephry it does nothing. It says in the Paragon 2 operators manual to reset the address I set CV8=8. Do you think this need to be done? 

Any help is greatly appreciated as I am getting frustrated.

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Posted by tstage on Monday, May 25, 2009 9:27 PM

Gotta ask some basic questions, Billy:

  • Is this the first time you've used your Zephyr?
  • Is your track wired to the correct terminals of your Zephyr?
  • Are you operating your Hudson directly on your layout track or on a dedicated programming track?
  • Do other locomotives program/operate fine on the track?

Locomotives generally come with a default short address of "3".  All you should need to do is to enter "3" into your Zephyr and away it goes.  No programming is needed unless you want to give your locomotive a different address - i.e. either 2- or 4-digit.

It may be that your BLI Hudson is "asleep".  If so, try quickly tapping F6 twice in succession.  This will awake it up out of hibernation and you will hear your Hudson come alive. [Edit: Oops!  The struckthrough sequence above would be for a QSI decoder. I'm not sure it would pertain to the newer Paragon2 decoders.]

Keep us posted...

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, May 25, 2009 9:28 PM

First, Have you run the system with any other engine before?

If yes then I would reset the engine to default. Should be CV8 = 8.

After that the address will be 3

The paragon's are single decoder engines and shouldn't be a problem.

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Posted by billy21 on Monday, May 25, 2009 10:17 PM

I have been working with the Zephyr for about 6 months. I double checked the wiring and then ran another loco on the track and it worked fine. I have both a dedicated program track as well as a layout track. Since I posted my question I put the loco on the program track to try and get a reading on the address but the reading came back d na which the manual says this meansthere is no aknowledgement from the decorder typically during decorder rewrites operation. Now what?

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Posted by tstage on Monday, May 25, 2009 10:23 PM

Billy,

It may be the age-old problem of your Zephyr trying to "read" a sound decoder.  This has been a problem with other DCC systems in the past because sound decoders require more "oomph" to program.  However, you should still be able to run it on your layout.

Is there a troubleshooting section in your Paragon2 manual that came with the Hudson?  It would probably be in the back of the manual.

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Posted by selector on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:30 AM

This may sound obvious, but if the decoder is a QSI, which I suspect a Paragon will have, the CV8 to a value of 8 is the incorrect procedure.  A QSI requires three CV resets.  Please consult your decoder documentation.

Secondly, if you are attempting to operate an extended address, and have not set CV 29 to a value of either 34 or 38, your engine will appear dead...lifeless...no sounds, no activity at all.  Enter Ops mode with the new address active on the throttle and set that CV.  Make sure it is on the programme track when you do this in case you mess it up. When you engage the throttle, it should now commence sounds.  If it doesn't set the address to "03" and try the CV 29 value again by inputting the value you desire.

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Posted by cacole on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:38 AM

 Function 9 is used to turn the Paragon 2 decoder on and off; startup and shutdown.  If you still haven't gotten your engine to run, try pushing the "9" button a couple of times and see what that does for you.  The locomotive should start up as soon as you crack the throttle, though, if you have the address set on 3.

 

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:46 AM

No F9 unless he has a DT400/UT4, he's using a Zephyr. If it never worked, it's possible it was shut down by someone test running it in the shop, but if so he's out of luck until he can take it back or get a UT4.

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Posted by selector on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:31 PM

Even so, F9 will simply be attempting to put the decoder into a deeper coma.  You want to double-press F6 if you want to reverse the coma...assuming this is the issue.

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Posted by dkawala on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:21 PM

If all else fails you can also try to manually reset the decoder. You'll need to remove the tender's body shell though to get to the decoder. Then use the tip of a pencil to hold down the reset button on the board while you turn on the track power. 

 

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Posted by joe27 on Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:21 AM

I have the same Loco. Startup is F6 and shutdown is F9. Also make sure the address entered is 3 and not 03. I have made that mistake before.

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:45 AM

joe27

I have the same Loco. Startup is F6 and shutdown is F9. Also make sure the address entered is 3 and not 03. I have made that mistake before.

Joe

 That should make no difference with Digitrax, 3 is 03 is 003 is a short address ALWAYS with Digitrax, 3 is short with NCE, 03 is long.

 Step 1 would be the rest as above - nice feature, a little button instead of that pesky magnet - I never could get those to work without removing the shell so I could actually see the reed switch. AFter a reset it should run, because that clears even the F9 shutdown. If it fails to run on address 3 after the reset, it's tiem to contact BLI (if other locos run fine) or Digitrax (if nothing else will run either).

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