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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:24 AM

 There is currently only one way I know for sure, and one other that might also do it, for reading CVs in Ops Mode. The one I know works is Digitrax decoders with Transponding, and all the associated other hardware to make Transponding work. The other is Lenz decoders with Railcom and the associated hardware to make that work. I believe that allows you to read CVs among other things, same as Digitrax Transponding.

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Posted by hdtvnut on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:18 AM

Cacole, either you're joking or incorrect.  Ops mode only shows a CV value that you recently programmed, and gets this from RAM, not from the decoder.  It doesn't matter that you're using an NCE Radio cab.  If you go immediatly to Ops mode after turning on your system, a loco's CV's will read zero, but of course are mostly not.

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Monday, April 13, 2009 6:38 PM

NSCOALDRAG
I have a powerpax to use for BLI and other sound equipped loco's my question is in trying to use it I have not really seen any improvement in being able to program sound decoders.

I too purchased a Powerpax programming track booster and have been disappointed with the the results.  I've used it (well tried to use it) with a Digitrax Zephyr and a Lenz, with random results.  Sometimes it works perfectly and other times repeated tries won't program.   As the others suggested I often resort to programming on the main in order to get the sound units to do what I want.

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Posted by cacole on Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:32 PM

 

jalajoie

The problem with programming on the main, is you can't read CVs. 

I can read CVs with my NCE ProCab Radio throttle -- any time I enter a CV number in Opns Mode, it shows me the present value.

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Posted by jbinkley60 on Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:29 PM

jalajoie

The problem with programming on the main, is you can't read CVs. 

 Try Direct instead of Paged mode and see if that works.

 

 

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Posted by jalajoie on Sunday, April 12, 2009 7:35 PM

The problem with programming on the main, is you can't read CVs. 

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Posted by cacole on Sunday, April 12, 2009 5:33 PM

 Use Opns Mode (Main Line) programming and you don't need the Power Pax.  I have one of them, too, and could tell no difference in programming strength with it connected to the programming track.  With my NCE Pro Cab I program practically everything using Opns Mode and have had no problems.

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Posted by jalajoie on Sunday, April 12, 2009 3:16 PM

I have/had a Power Pax, it is misplaced or I lost it, anyway I never had any problem programming QSI and Soundtrax decoders with it and a Zephyr.

At home I use my Power Cab and I have no problem programming QSI decoders.

At the club I use a Digitrax PR3 and again can program QSI, Blue Line and Soundtrax decoders with ease.

Your problem might be a defective Power Pax

Jack W.

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Posted by Don Z on Sunday, April 12, 2009 3:09 PM

Can you elaborate on what sort of problems you're having in programming your locomotive or what sort of 'tricks or tips' you're looking for? How do you have the PowerPax connected to your programming track and to the NCE unit?

Don Z.

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Posted by NSCOALDRAG on Sunday, April 12, 2009 2:50 PM

I have turned off the voice feedback and gotten the same results. I am kind of hoping someone will point me to a website that has some sort of help sheet. LOL May be wishful thinking but hey a guy can dream huh. thanks everyone.

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Posted by Don Z on Sunday, April 12, 2009 2:28 PM

If your BLI is equipped with QSI sound, before you start programming, go to CV 62 and turn the voice feedback to off CV 62 = 0. This will make life much easier for you. NCE systems don't like the voice feedback of the QSI chips.

Don Z. 

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Posted by ds137 on Sunday, April 12, 2009 1:47 PM

I don't what a power pax is, but I have not been at this too long so bear with me.  NCE makes a Power House system ( a power cab and a separate control box  which can pan put out 5 amps of power) and a Power Pro system (which is all in one hand held throttle and only puts out abt 2 amps of power). I have a  Power Cab system, so I might be able to help a little or ask the right questions that will get the right answer from someone a little smarter than me..Is the Power Pax a booster? If so, is it the Smart booster (SB3)?

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power pax issues
Posted by NSCOALDRAG on Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:49 PM

Hello everyone,

I have a powerpax to use for BLI and other sound equipped loco's my question is in trying to use it I have not really seen any improvement in being able to program sound decoders.  I use an NCE power pro system and have tried about everything i can think of. So lets start listing all of your ideas, tips, tricks, etc.

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