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My BLI AC6000 is Freaking Out!

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Posted by wjstix on Thursday, March 6, 2014 8:23 AM

I found out while doing a break-in run on my BLI NW-2 (from 2006, with QSI sound decoder from the factory) on DC that the engine sitting with the horn honking continually means the engine is getting too much power from the track. (Since I just have a shelf switching layout, I set up an oval of Kato Unitrack to do a break-in run on new engines. In this case, I was using an old MRC powerpack designed more for O or Large Scale trains, so had more power than a typical DC power pack. If I gave the engine too much power, it stopped and started honking til I backed off the power.)

My guess is your engine is reading the 14-16V AC power on your track from your DCC system, and is thinking it's getting that much DC power. As noted, if that's the case, turning off DC compatability should solve the problem.

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Posted by cacole on Wednesday, March 5, 2014 5:59 PM

Is your model an original Paragon with QSI decoder, or a Paragon2 with BLI's own decoder?  

If it's the GE AC6000 Paragon2 decoder, there is no magic wand to reset the decoder, but there is a small pushbutton switch on it, which may be stuck.

http://www.broadway-limited.com/support/Paragon2%20Reset.pdf

If it has a QSI decoder you'll need to determine which version it is by querying CV 7, then downloading the manual for that particular version from QSI's web site.  IIRC, there are 3 or 4 CVs that have to be set in a particular sequence to reset the QSI Paragon decoder.

 

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Posted by Fireddog26 on Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:36 AM

I had bought the green AC6000 BLI. When I went from dcc to dc it completely wiped out the dcc board. I sent it back to the company. The did a reset on it and it still was messed up. They said one in 200 are bad. ???? So I got a new one. You may need to send it in. Or buy a new decoder. Sounds to me like you shocked it winkle leavin it on the track when doing another one on the track too. Am I right on that last thing??  But yea new engine. 

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Posted by SD60M on Saturday, February 7, 2009 7:49 PM

locoi1sa

 Kade

 Did the 6000 come with the magic wand? If so see my first post. If it was dropped or rough handled during shipping it could damage the reed switch that resets the QSI board. When its stuck closed it will reset every time it powers up and also when running. Some of the PCM I1 steamers had a jumper plug that was put on the wrong terminals at the factory for reseting the new QSI decoders. The magic wand reset reed switch is no longer being used on the BLI/PCM QSI decoders for just this same problem.

   Pete

The 6000 didnt come with a magic wand. Where is the reed switch, and what does it look like? Also my 40-2 came with a magic wand would it work on the 6000 or is it just for the 40-2?

-Kade

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Posted by locoi1sa on Friday, February 6, 2009 5:25 PM

 Kade

 Did the 6000 come with the magic wand? If so see my first post. If it was dropped or rough handled during shipping it could damage the reed switch that resets the QSI board. When its stuck closed it will reset every time it powers up and also when running. Some of the PCM I1 steamers had a jumper plug that was put on the wrong terminals at the factory for reseting the new QSI decoders. The magic wand reset reed switch is no longer being used on the BLI/PCM QSI decoders for just this same problem.

   Pete

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Posted by jbinkley60 on Thursday, February 5, 2009 8:44 PM

SD60M

jbinkley60

SD60M

My BLI Paragon just seems to be a lemon when it comes right down to it! About 15 minutes ago i had it just sitting on the rails just ideling while i put a decoder in my Athearn GP60M and the 6000's voice kept saying max max max and the horn kept going off! This is the first time it has done this, i took it of the rails and put it back on and it started doing it again. It seems like this engine just wont work right its one thing after another whether its reseting itself everytime its put on the tracks or this! Should i get rid of it? This is very strange because i have a BLI Paragon SD40-2 and it doesnt give me a lick of trouble! So if anyone knows whats ghoing on here PLEASE HELP ME!

-Kade

Turn off DCC compatability mode on the 6000.  When you say you put a decoder in your GP60M, how did you set the address, in Ops mode or on a programming track ?  What type of DCC system do you have and what type of decoder did you put in the GP60M ?   You may have to put the 6000 on DC and crank it up just enough to enable the sound system and then hit the reset.  You may not be able tor eset it on a DCC layout.  I've had this happen on older QSI decoders where I left DC compatability enabled.

 

Sorry for taking so long! I put a DH123 in the GP60M but i havent even put it on the rails or programmed it yet. Another thing about the 6000 is every time i put on the track it resets itself, its done this since i bought it! How do i turn off the DCC compatability? I have a MRC Prodigy Express system, but the 6000 just seems to be fickle even though i have a BLI SD40-2 that has no problem at all!

-Kade

To turn of DC compatability mode CV29 bit 3 must be off.  The most common value for CV29 is 34, which disables it.

 

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Posted by SD60M on Thursday, February 5, 2009 6:37 PM

jbinkley60

SD60M

My BLI Paragon just seems to be a lemon when it comes right down to it! About 15 minutes ago i had it just sitting on the rails just ideling while i put a decoder in my Athearn GP60M and the 6000's voice kept saying max max max and the horn kept going off! This is the first time it has done this, i took it of the rails and put it back on and it started doing it again. It seems like this engine just wont work right its one thing after another whether its reseting itself everytime its put on the tracks or this! Should i get rid of it? This is very strange because i have a BLI Paragon SD40-2 and it doesnt give me a lick of trouble! So if anyone knows whats ghoing on here PLEASE HELP ME!

-Kade

Turn off DCC compatability mode on the 6000.  When you say you put a decoder in your GP60M, how did you set the address, in Ops mode or on a programming track ?  What type of DCC system do you have and what type of decoder did you put in the GP60M ?   You may have to put the 6000 on DC and crank it up just enough to enable the sound system and then hit the reset.  You may not be able tor eset it on a DCC layout.  I've had this happen on older QSI decoders where I left DC compatability enabled.

 

Sorry for taking so long! I put a DH123 in the GP60M but i havent even put it on the rails or programmed it yet. Another thing about the 6000 is every time i put on the track it resets itself, its done this since i bought it! How do i turn off the DCC compatability? I have a MRC Prodigy Express system, but the 6000 just seems to be fickle even though i have a BLI SD40-2 that has no problem at all!

-Kade

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Posted by jbinkley60 on Sunday, February 1, 2009 5:14 PM

SD60M

My BLI Paragon just seems to be a lemon when it comes right down to it! About 15 minutes ago i had it just sitting on the rails just ideling while i put a decoder in my Athearn GP60M and the 6000's voice kept saying max max max and the horn kept going off! This is the first time it has done this, i took it of the rails and put it back on and it started doing it again. It seems like this engine just wont work right its one thing after another whether its reseting itself everytime its put on the tracks or this! Should i get rid of it? This is very strange because i have a BLI Paragon SD40-2 and it doesnt give me a lick of trouble! So if anyone knows whats ghoing on here PLEASE HELP ME!

-Kade

Turn off DCC compatability mode on the 6000.  When you say you put a decoder in your GP60M, how did you set the address, in Ops mode or on a programming track ?  What type of DCC system do you have and what type of decoder did you put in the GP60M ?   You may have to put the 6000 on DC and crank it up just enough to enable the sound system and then hit the reset.  You may not be able tor eset it on a DCC layout.  I've had this happen on older QSI decoders where I left DC compatability enabled.

 

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Posted by locoi1sa on Sunday, February 1, 2009 3:27 PM

 Kade

 Check the reset switch to see if its stuck closed or if its one with a jumper plug it may be in the wrong place. If its the magnet kind of reset it may be stuck or defective. If not then try a manual reset and try again.

   Pete

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My BLI AC6000 is Freaking Out!
Posted by SD60M on Sunday, February 1, 2009 3:05 PM

My BLI Paragon just seems to be a lemon when it comes right down to it! About 15 minutes ago i had it just sitting on the rails just ideling while i put a decoder in my Athearn GP60M and the 6000's voice kept saying max max max and the horn kept going off! This is the first time it has done this, i took it of the rails and put it back on and it started doing it again. It seems like this engine just wont work right its one thing after another whether its reseting itself everytime its put on the tracks or this! Should i get rid of it? This is very strange because i have a BLI Paragon SD40-2 and it doesnt give me a lick of trouble! So if anyone knows whats ghoing on here PLEASE HELP ME!

-Kade

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