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Posted by richhotrain on Sunday, February 23, 2014 11:38 AM

LOL, 

Chad, no one's life is dependent upon the results.

You did good to bring the question to the forum and you did even better correcting the problem.

What you need to understand is that you raised an issue of enormous interest, as evidenced by the sheer number of views.  Fellow modelers are extremely interested in Peco turnouts, are sometimes confused by the power routing features of the turnout, and need to know more about the wiring of these turnouts.

Adding to the complexity of this issue is the Peco Electrofrog.  That turnout is also power routing but, unlike the Insulfrog, the Electrofrog has a live frog and needs to be gapped by the modeler.

You done good, and thanks for reporting back to all of us.

Rich

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Posted by BATMAN on Sunday, February 23, 2014 11:51 AM

zstripe
Brent, We'll never know! Will we? Big Smile Frank

Nope!

Even if I was wrong (spare the thoughtLaugh) It would have been nice to know.

Good inquisitive bunch pounched on this thread, so while I have you all together, what came first, the chicken or the egg????????

Brent

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Posted by richhotrain on Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:01 PM

Brent, I forgot your pick as the likely problem with the OP's wiring.  What was it?   Huh?

Rich

 

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Posted by jalajoie on Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:11 PM

richhotrain

LOL, 

Chad, no one's life is dependent upon the results.

You did good to bring the question to the forum and you did even better correcting the problem.

What you need to understand is that you raised an issue of enormous interest, as evidenced by the sheer number of views.  Fellow modelers are extremely interested in Peco turnouts, are sometimes confused by the power routing features of the turnout, and need to know more about the wiring of these turnouts.

Adding to the complexity of this issue is the Peco Electrofrog.  That turnout is also power routing but, unlike the Insulfrog, the Electrofrog has a live frog and needs to be gapped by the modeler.

You done good, and thanks for reporting back to all of us.

Rich

 

Rich I am with you 100% with this post.

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Posted by zstripe on Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:00 PM

To The One and Only. BATMAN,

Some more info for the Modeler:

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/stories/finally-answered-which-came-first-the-chicken-or-the-egg

Beer

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Posted by ChadMichaels on Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:28 PM

I've always came here with problems I've had with my layout, you guys are good with helping me trouble shoot. Just wished some of you lived closer so I could just call you over to the layout...lol Thanks again guys!

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, February 24, 2014 12:00 PM

zstripe

To The One and Only. BATMAN,

Some more info for the Modeler:

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/stories/finally-answered-which-came-first-the-chicken-or-the-egg

Beer

Striped

 

Frank

Not only are the guy's on this forum some of the nicest you'll ever hear from, they are just incredibly smart! An instant answer to the chicken and egg question. Wikipedia has nothin on the MRR forum.Laugh

Rich

My "guess" of the problem of the dead spur was, not all sections of track were electrically connected. So even if the spur feeders were properly connected, the section of track the loco was sitting on in the demo could have had an intermittent connection depending on how the switch was thrown. I would have liked to have seen the demo with the loco sitting on the section of track that had the feeders connected to it. But then that might have only been part of the problem. It takes very little movement to wiggle a joiner enough to make it fail electrically and throwing a switch is more than enough to do that. (speaking from experienceWhistling)

 

 

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Posted by dante on Monday, February 24, 2014 12:32 PM

The last paragraph of the chicken-link says it all and demonstrates that the explanation is not a valid answer to the conundrum: "Maybe the question we should be asking is: Which came first, the proto-chicken or the proto-chicken egg?"

Regarding the electrical integrity of the spur, IIRC the OP said that the loco ran the length of the spur. We still need more detail about his solution to satisfy our curiosity!

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, February 24, 2014 12:48 PM

dante
Which came first, the proto-chicken or the proto-chicken egg?"

IIRC these are Walthers products, are they not? Maybe we can drop Walthers a line.Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by dante on Monday, February 24, 2014 1:39 PM

BATMAN

 

 
dante
Which came first, the proto-chicken or the proto-chicken egg?"

 

IIRC these are Walthers products, are they not? Maybe we can drop Walthers a line.Smile, Wink & Grin

 

If so, that makes Walthers the "First Cause!" Bow

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