UP 9000 class (also UP-1 through UP-5 class) 4-12-2 prototype info

[TakeFive]

I'm having a hard time finding length, tractive effort and weight info on these engines. Specifically, I would like to know the overall length, total weight (both with tender included) and tractive effort for the UP-2 class of engines produced in 1926 by the Brooks works with road numbers 9001-9014.

[feltonhill]

Rated tractive force - 96,650 lbs

Engine wt, 9000-9014 - 495,000 lbs; tender weight 287,000 lbs; total length - 102'-6 5/8"

Later series:

Engine weight 9015-9062 - 496,500 lbs; tender weight 310,500 lbs, total length - 102'- 6 5/8"

Engine Weight 9078-9087, 9500-9514 - 515,000 lbs; tender weight 310,500 lbs, total length 102'- 6 5/8"

These specs are from UP locomotive diagrams.  Other sources may vary.

[7j43k]

From the UPHS locomotive photo series (9001-9014):

Overall length--various locomotives had either 102'-6-5/8" or 103'-1-5/8" lengths

total weight (loaded)--805,500 lbs when equipped with an 18,000 gallon tender          

                               782,000 lbs when equipped with a 15,000 gallon tender

tractive effort--96,650 lbs

 

Ed           

[TakeFive]

Thanks guys, very much appreciated. I hope I can return the favor some time.

[CAZEPHYR]

From the UPHS locomotive photo series (9001-9014):

Overall length--various locomotives had either 102'-6-5/8" or 103'-1-5/8" lengths

total weight (loaded)--805,500 lbs when equipped with an 18,000 gallon tender          

                               782,000 lbs when equipped with a 15,000 gallon tender

tractive effort--96,650 lbs

 

Ed           

 

Ed

 I was curious about the 15000 and 18000 water gal tender you referenced on the 9000's.  Do they have photo's of both sizes on the 9000's?? 

I do not have the 4-12-2 book from the UPHS, but wanted to know if they had good pictures of both types in the book.

 Thanks 

CAZEPHYR

[7j43k]

UPHS produces photo books of various groups of UP locos.  They're up to 21 volumes now with about 80 pages in each one.  They've done the 4-12-2's, 0-6-0's, 4-8-4's, 2-8-8-0's, 4-8-2's, 2-10-2's, 4-6-0's, and 4-6-2's.  The photos tend to be 3/4 shots or broadsides.  A shot from the rear is quite rare.

Looking at the 4-12-2 photos, I can't make out much visual difference between the 15k tenders and the 18k tenders--they look a lot alike.  I do note that of the pictures I looked at, all the 15k shots were taken in 1927--the 18k shots dated after that.  I figure the tenders were replaced with larger ones very shortly after delivery.  If you've got a 4-12-2, you most likely want the 18k tender, unless you're modeling 1927.  Maybe someone can provide a method of telling one from the other.

 

Ed

[CAZEPHYR]

UPHS produces photo books of various groups of UP locos.  They're up to 21 volumes now with about 80 pages in each one.  They've done the 4-12-2's, 0-6-0's, 4-8-4's, 2-8-8-0's, 4-8-2's, 2-10-2's, 4-6-0's, and 4-6-2's.  The photos tend to be 3/4 shots or broadsides.  A shot from the rear is quite rare.

Looking at the 4-12-2 photos, I can't make out much visual difference between the 15k tenders and the 18k tenders--they look a lot alike.  I do note that of the pictures I looked at, all the 15k shots were taken in 1927--the 18k shots dated after that.  I figure the tenders were replaced with larger ones very shortly after delivery.  If you've got a 4-12-2, you most likely want the 18k tender, unless you're modeling 1927.  Maybe someone can provide a method of telling one from the other.

 

Ed

 Thanks

I have the UPHS books onthe Mountain and the FEF's, but did order the 4-12-2's yet.

My 4-12-2 has the 18000 Gal Tender, but I had never seen any other size tender on the models or my UP books.  I have all of the Streamliners from VOL I and will have to do a little reseach on articles about the 4-12-2.