Can anyone ID these locos?

[Anonymous]

I picked up these two working locos for a nice price of $2.00 at a yard sale the other day, and I was wondering if anyone could give me a little history/backround on them, and what they're known as, or at least where I can find this info.

http://home.earthlink.net/~kreez8/trainpictures/

I think I've gotten all the information I need. Besides, the above link goes to another place now, so if any admins see this thread, they should remove it from the forum list.

[tjsmrinfo]

kreez dont know how much help i can be but i'll try.
the first pic is an 0-4-0 dockside switcher only 1 or 2 big roads had these for switching only
i think PRR had them. the 2nd pic is a diesel hustler also used for industrial switching and as far as i know no class 1 rr had these locs

if anybody can correct me go for it

hope this helps some


tom

[Anonymous]

Thanks Tom, your reply cleared things up nicely.

If anyone else has info, I'm all ears.

[Anonymous]

The diesel may be a Plymouth DDT, and I would agree with Tom's analysis, that very few, if any, big roads owned these. I know Model Power offered the DDT switchers in a variety of road names, ranging from UP to NS to Chessie, but I'm not sure how prototypical they are.

[dinwitty]

The top steamer 0-4-0 needs a tender. Its not a dockside, but one of the common 0-4-0's that may have come from a train set.
The Plymouth Diesel also.

[emdgp92]

I don't think the Chessie had any engines like this. Quite a few smaller diesels were used as plant switchers at steel mills or factories.

Here's a similar Plymouth engine that I got to run in Waynesburg, PA. It's a narrow-gauge (3 foot) engine that's used at the museum to move their steam engine around. Go here for more info: http://toyotameister.tripod.com/wbgharvest/

I should mention that even though 2 engines show up in the photos, one has since been retired and is now resting in the weeds. The other was repainted last year and looks pretty good.

[Anonymous]

I don't know too much about trains but I can tell you that if you go to the lionel website then maybe you can find them, or maybe you could go to google or ask.com and get your information there.

Sincerly,
Northern484steamloco

[ndbprr]

I think most of us would say they are not high quality reproductions of known equipment. I have never seen a real 0-4-0 with that large a wheelbase. They may be very good runners for you and you may wi***o repaint them into an industrial engine(s) where that would be a more acceptable usage.

[Anonymous]

Well thank you again everyone, for all your help. Like some of you said, "these aren't very prototypical engines.", and I try to stay as close as possible to real life operations. I got both of these for only 2 bucks, so I can't say I was ripped off.

Anyway, the diesel I planned on repainting from the moment I set eyes on it. There's a mid-sized coal mine on my layout, so It looks like the coal mine is goning to have their very own loco pretty soon to shunt cuts of coal hoppers.

And the 0-4-0, well I suppose I could make a tender for it, or add a bunker and make it a tank engine. It's already not very realistic to have these two locos on my layout, so my plans are really wide open, anyone have any fun ideas?

[emdgp92]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kreez
Anyway, the diesel I planned on repainting from the moment I set eyes on it. There's a mid-sized coal mine on my layout, so It looks like the coal mine is goning to have their very own loco pretty soon to shunt cuts of coal hoppers.

You could do some serious weathering on this one. The diesel photo link I posted might give you some ideas. These engines were originally owned by a steel mill and weren't that bad. The museum picked them up awhile back to shuffle the steam engine out of its shed.

Anyway, you could strip the diesel's paint, hit it with some oxide red paint, and then heavily weather it. Many of these engines saw heavy use and were in service until they fell apart.