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Posted by icmr on Wednesday, November 9, 2005 8:43 AM
If it is what you want then go for it. If you want to be prototypical then you might want to do a google search to find what you are looking for. You could ask some of the guys on the Classic Trains forum about it.



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Posted by waltersrails on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 10:08 AM
Sounds like a good plan to me its simialer to what i did on my old layout.
I like NS but CSX has the B&O.
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Posted by ndbprr on Friday, November 4, 2005 4:25 PM
I would say if you model New England or a northern state where ice was harvested you could get away with it. I would make them two separate industries at different points on the siding if possible
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Posted by egmurphy on Friday, November 4, 2005 3:16 PM
One point that you didn’t mention in your post or in your profile was whether you are trying to model a specific prototype situation, trying to duplicate the most common prototype practice, or just trying to be reasonable.

The others are correct in saying that icing plants would typically be located in yards. This makes sense because they usually iced cars for several local industries, and more importantly, provided stage icing (replenishment of ice in cars) for through trains.

However if you are freelancing, you could easily make a case for having the icing facility adjacent to the packing plant. Since the situation is somewhat similar to what I have on my small layout, let me relate the logic I used in locating my icing plant.

On my small freelanced road, I have only a small yard. In my operating scheme I do not do any stage icing of through trains. I also have only one local industry that uses reefers. And this industry is relatively small volume, generating maybe one or two carloads per day. Since it is the only local industry that needs ice, and since there is no icing of through trains, there was no particular need to locate the icing plant in the yard (good thing too, as I don’t have any space there). I actually have two spurs close together at the industry, where I ice my empty cars at the ice plant on one spur, while iced cars are being loaded at the fruit packer on the other spur.

But if you only have space for one spur, and if the industry doesn’t generate a high amount of traffic, you could develop a logic that says (for example) that the empties get spotted in the afternoon, iced on the night shift, loaded with meat on the day shift, and pulled out the next afternoon, being exchanged for new empties in.

Could depend to a great extent on just how ‘true to prototype’ you care to be, or how picky or knowledgeable your layout’s visitors are likely to be.

Just to offer another point of view.

Regards

Ed
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Posted by wjstix on Friday, November 4, 2005 11:19 AM
I guess it wouldn't be impossible, but I think generally the icing platforms would be part of the railroads yard. The RR would ice up the cars in the yard, then deliver them to the meat packer to be loaded, then would pick them up and ship them out on a train to their destination. If it's a long journey, they would be re-iced in another yard along the way.

But perhaps a very large packing plant might have it's own icing facilities?? If so, I don't remember ever seeing it mentioned in an article or anything.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 4, 2005 10:52 AM
Tom, I'm modeling the late 1920's early 1930's
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Posted by tjsmrinfo on Friday, November 4, 2005 8:56 AM
harvey you didnt mention what era you model, my guess would be before the cars get to the loading dock to be precooled then spotted again after loading to keep the car(s) properly cooled. you might want to try a google search and see what you can find out

hope this helps

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Industry siding
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 4, 2005 8:17 AM
This my not be the right forum for this but here goes anyway. Would it be
possible (or "OK") to have a Icing platform on one side of a single track siding and a small Meat packing plant on the other side of said track?????? Thanks
to all that respond.[:)][:)][:)]

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