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Union Pacific SD70ACe's Heritage units in Omaha for unveiling

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Union Pacific SD70ACe's Heritage units in Omaha for unveiling
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
UP 8379 and 8383 are in Omaha for unveiling with the 844 this weekend. The two units are painted in heritage colors and it is belived they are WP and MP, but they were delievered with blue tarps on them.

Check Trainorders for some pictures.

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Posted by alstom on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:02 AM
What does the UP "Heritage" paint look like? Does it have the flag on the side? If it does, I recall that being the "Building America" paint scheme.

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Posted by Amtrk14 on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:34 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by alstom

What does the UP "Heritage" paint look like? Does it have the flag on the side? If it does, I recall that being the "Building America" paint scheme.

Richard


We don't know what they look like, because they are covered up. No information has been given out about these units. Take a look here:

http://www.railroadforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7800&page=1&pp=10

People are also saying that these might be military units...only time will tell. We will find out on Saturday.

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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:27 PM
Hmmm, the black and yellow pilot plow is new.

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Posted by West Coast S on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 1:13 PM
Hmm...A return to silver trucks and fuel tank..should be interesting to see what is under those blue tarps. Regardless of how you paint a modern diesel it will still resemble a microwave in a fancy box, just the same, its good to see UP garner some positive exposure.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 1:41 PM
It's been confirmed by UP that the two SD70ACe's are painted in MoPAC and WP. Should be cool to see them unvieled.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

It's been confirmed by UP that the two SD70ACe's are painted in MoPAC and WP. Should be cool to see them unvieled.


One of the articles stated, these are the first of four of the heritage series. Two more units are being tracked that were delivered in primer.

Any speculation???? The first two are subnumbered 1982 and 1983 for the year the WP and the MP were merged.

The SP was in 1996 and the C&NW was in 1988???

The new units will probably end up wearing the merge year numbers much like the 2001 and 2002 blue SD70M Olympic units.

Let's hope Tower 55 will build them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:55 AM
From what I've heard, UP ordered paint for an MKT (Katy) unit next. SP, SSW and CN&W will follow.
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Posted by balearic on Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:16 AM
Bigboy, do you know which version of Katy paint -- green and yellow, or old-school red?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:59 AM
What about the Rio Grande? Anyone think they will do a loco in that scheme? I think it would be nice and am sure others would like it as well.
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Posted by West Coast S on Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:34 PM
Just got some additional news, there are a total of five heritage units pending. MKT-yellow/green, MP-blue, C&NW yellow-green lighting stripe, WP Green-orange, SP scarlet-red. D&RGW was not selected for recreation. Ok what are the ones at Omaha?

My source states these units are not historically correct, some liberties were taken with the paint jobs, but overall they convey the history of their chosen roads. The units wil be numbered to reflect the year of merger.

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Posted by dehusman on Thursday, July 28, 2005 2:19 PM
Since the UP is painting the locomotives, they are by definition "correct". They may not use the historical painting diagram.

But then again finding two BNSF engines in the same consist with the same paint scheme is pretty hard. The person in charge of BNSF schemes must have been raised by the person that was in charge of paint for the LV. They had a scheme for every 3 or 4 locomotives too.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 28, 2005 2:34 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman

But then again finding two BNSF engines in the same consist with the same paint scheme is pretty hard.


Really? There's this little thing among BNSF fans called 'Dash 9 boredom' and it just makes you sick of GE's in Heritage 2 colors. Visit BNSF's transcon to see what I mean.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 28, 2005 3:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 8OSF5

What about the Rio Grande? Anyone think they will do a loco in that scheme? I think it would be nice and am sure others would like it as well.
From what I heard, Rio Grande wasn't selected because it was merged with SP, not UP. I think the same goes for SSW too (never mind my previous post about that). The MKT unit will be yellow and green.
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Posted by UnionPacific3985 on Thursday, July 28, 2005 7:18 PM
When are they scheduled to be unveiled?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 28, 2005 7:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bangert1

QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

It's been confirmed by UP that the two SD70ACe's are painted in MoPAC and WP. Should be cool to see them unvieled.


One of the articles stated, these are the first of four of the heritage series. Two more units are being tracked that were delivered in primer.

Any speculation???? The first two are subnumbered 1982 and 1983 for the year the WP and the MP were merged.

The SP was in 1996 and the C&NW was in 1988???

The new units will probably end up wearing the merge year numbers much like the 2001 and 2002 blue SD70M Olympic units.

Let's hope Tower 55 will build them.



Just a small correction; C&NW was merged into UP in 1995
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cnw8835

QUOTE: Originally posted by bangert1

QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

It's been confirmed by UP that the two SD70ACe's are painted in MoPAC and WP. Should be cool to see them unvieled.


One of the articles stated, these are the first of four of the heritage series. Two more units are being tracked that were delivered in primer.

Any speculation???? The first two are subnumbered 1982 and 1983 for the year the WP and the MP were merged.

The SP was in 1996 and the C&NW was in 1988???

The new units will probably end up wearing the merge year numbers much like the 2001 and 2002 blue SD70M Olympic units.

Let's hope Tower 55 will build them.



Just a small correction; C&NW was merged into UP in 1995


Thanks for the correct date as I could not remember the date and thought it was in the late eighties, with a question mark?? I should have thought about the fact I have a book with the C&NW AC4400's in it that came out in 1994?? Boy, does time fly!

I sure liked the looks of that paint scheme on the AC4400's and the Dash 9's.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:43 PM
I sure like C&NW AC4400's and Dash-9s too. I'm looking forward to seeing C&NW paint on and SD70ACe.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 29, 2005 7:19 AM
Sure these "heritage" paint jobs aren't just a clever way to keep those fallen-flag trademarks current for licensing purposes...?

hehehehe[}:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 29, 2005 4:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cnw8835

I sure like C&NW AC4400's and Dash-9s too. I'm looking forward to seeing C&NW paint on and SD70ACe.


The C&NW Dash nines were so attractive when new that I purchased one of the Kato units just for that reason. It is never used since I don't model the era, but it was great looking. The Dash 9 Kato model had the original side frame type truck on them which was good for the first forty units, but the later units got the new side frame.
It will be interesting to see if they actually have the stripes and the colors to replicate the most striking units painted for any road.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 29, 2005 4:49 PM
Trainorders thread just posted some pictures with the tarps off, however, before you get excited, they only show the top of the units behind the passenger cars being used for shields to hid the units until later tomorrow morning.
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Posted by espeefoamer on Friday, July 29, 2005 6:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by GrayLoess

Sure these "heritage" paint jobs aren't just a clever way to keep those fallen-flag trademarks current for licensing purposes...?

hehehehe[}:)]

I'm almost certain this is the reason for the "heritage" units.
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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Friday, July 29, 2005 8:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

QUOTE: Originally posted by GrayLoess

Sure these "heritage" paint jobs aren't just a clever way to keep those fallen-flag trademarks current for licensing purposes...?

hehehehe[}:)]

I'm almost certain this is the reason for the "heritage" units.


Yeah, of course they can't just do it for railfans and all. They have to get something out of it. That's what corporations do...

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 30, 2005 6:48 AM
Well it's Saturday, Where are the picturs???!!!!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:39 AM
I've seen the spyshots of the MoPAC unit. Looks great! The blue looks a little light, though.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:23 AM
You can see the two units now on Trainorders link below.

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,969225
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Posted by balearic on Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:04 AM
Looks to me like they used Conrail blue.
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Posted by Amtrk14 on Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:15 AM
Both Tower 55 and OMI will be doing these units!

Here are some more pictures:

http://members.cox.net/amflyer/UP1982R.jpg

http://members.cox.net/amflyer/UP1983.jpg

http://members.cox.net/amflyer/UP1983R.jpg

http://members.cox.net/amflyer/UP1982-1983.jpg

Photo's by Mike Vana

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:42 PM
This release along with great pictures are on the uprr.com heritage page.

Omaha, Neb., July 30, 2005 – Union Pacific Chairman and CEO *** Davidson today unveiled an unprecedented new Heritage series of locomotives that will honor the people and the railroads that have made the company what it is today. Each locomotive will feature a unique paint scheme, incorporating elements of one of the six major railroads that have merged with Union Pacific.

"It is important that we take an historical perspective of who we are and how we got here," Davidson said. "Our reputation as America’s greatest railroad has been strengthened by the many lines that have become a part of the UP. It is time we pay homage to those railroads and the generations of men and women who helped to build a great nation and the foundation for our future."

The first two locomotives in the series were revealed Saturday in Omaha. The locomotives, which pay tribute to the men and women of Missouri Pacific and Western Pacific, will operate across the UP system.

The Missouri Pacific and Western Pacific locomotives will be followed in coming months by locomotives painted in the style of the Missouri-Kansas-Texas (Katy), Chicago & North Western, Southern Pacific, and Denver & Rio Grande.

The C&NW, SP, Katy and theD&RG will get heritage units in the future months.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 1, 2005 2:19 AM
more pictures:

http://www.pacific-western-rail.com/dyn.July_30_2005_New_UP_Heritage_Paint_Schemes.php

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