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Former Class II/III railraods in the LA county area?

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Former Class II/III railraods in the LA county area?
Posted by BradenD on Wednesday, January 10, 2024 6:10 PM

Hey everyone this is a niche question I'm not sure anyone can answer. I was wondering if there were any Class II or Class III railroads in the vicinity of LA like Glendale or Pasadena that ran steam from 1900-1950.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Thursday, January 11, 2024 3:04 AM
I had a quick look out of idle curiosity and it would appear that the Class II / III railroads in the area you are enquiring about were electric.
The Los Angeles Junction Railway, a switching railway, did operate steam…
 
 
…not sure if this helps.
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Posted by azrail on Thursday, January 11, 2024 10:07 AM

Pacific Electric (which SP took control of in 1910) had several steam locos.

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Posted by Metro Red Line on Thursday, January 25, 2024 8:15 AM

BradenD

Hey everyone this is a niche question I'm not sure anyone can answer. I was wondering if there were any Class II or Class III railroads in the vicinity of LA like Glendale or Pasadena that ran steam from 1900-1950.

 



Los Angeles resident and history buff here. The most notable railroad in the area that ran steam during that period was the Los Angeles and Salt Lake Railroad. It operated from 1905 to 1921, and then it became part of the UP. The existing UP route L.A. and SLC is the legacy route originally built by the LA & SL. 

 

Aside from the railroads that served the Port of Los Angeles/Long Beach and adjacent industries, the whole region was mainly SP/ATSF/UP domain as a number of cities in L.A. County were established as a result of the Class I roads, and even founded or named by the railroads themselves (Santa Fe Springs for example). During the late 1800s/early 1900s, many towns had strong associations with the railroads that served them.

As for Glendale and Pasadena specifically, Glendale was an SP town (with a small UP freight line) and Pasadena was an ATSF town. There were no steam-operated Class II/III railroads serving those two cities after 1900, with the exception of the Los Angeles & San Gabriel Valley Railroad, which only operated until 1906, when it was bought by and integrated into the ATSF. The Santa Fe's Pasadena Subdivision (now used by the Metro (A) Line light rail) was the LA&SGVR's legacy route. 

The other closest thing was the Glendale and Montrose Railway, but that was strictly an electric trolley operation. That ran from 1909 to 1930.

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