Trains.com

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Stacking of containers

2041 views
8 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: Louisville
  • 585 posts
Stacking of containers
Posted by dbduck on Monday, November 20, 2023 2:33 PM

What are the prototypical practices of stacking different size containers on a well car?

for example, a 48' and a 40' container in a 48' well car.. which one would prototypically go on bottom

  • Member since
    February 2002
  • From: Mpls/St.Paul
  • 13,788 posts
Posted by wjstix on Monday, November 20, 2023 3:05 PM

Most of the time, the smaller container is on the bottom. So in your example, the 40' container would have the 48' container on top.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SesN4A7emnE/Uri9kq0IvzI/AAAAAAAGcJM/69T3t2GtCX8/s1600/FEC+72604+Double+Stack+Container+Flatbed+Rail+Car+FLORIDA+EAST+COAST+RAILWAY+NS+Freight+Train+CSX+Diamonds+Cordele+Georgia+FEC+Railroad+Railcar++++++.JPG

You can have two short containers on the bottom, but the top would be just one larger one...so two 20' containers might be on the bottom, with a 40' (or 48') container on top.

https://trovestardata.com/images/Collections/0/galleries/98/98014_1.jpg

 

Stix
  • Member since
    May 2020
  • 1,056 posts
Posted by wrench567 on Monday, November 20, 2023 8:08 PM

  There's an art and science to container stacks. The pockets for the locking pins have to line up. Some of the old 38 and 40 footers have been retired. So when you stack your model containers, make sure the pockets line up one a top of the other.

    Pete.

  • Member since
    September 2011
  • 6,408 posts
Posted by MidlandMike on Monday, November 20, 2023 9:48 PM

40 foot containers don't have midpoint connection points or structure to support 20 foot containers on top, so the 40' container will always be on top when mixed with 20 footers.

  • Member since
    September 2003
  • From: Omaha, NE
  • 10,616 posts
Posted by dehusman on Monday, November 20, 2023 10:31 PM

General rules:

Shorter boxes on the bottom

20 ft boxes on the bottom

Tank containers on the bottom

Loaded containers on the bottom of empties

Hazmat placed in 2 dimensions (railcars is in one dimension linear, containers two dimensions linear and vertical, ships have 3 dimensional placement, they have to check 26 other containers around the hazmat one)

Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com

  • Member since
    January 2011
  • 892 posts
Posted by PennCentral99 on Tuesday, November 21, 2023 7:42 AM

I found this video informative. All credit to the creator

 

Inspired by Addiction

See more on my YouTube Channel

  • Member since
    October 2008
  • From: Canada
  • 1,819 posts
Posted by cv_acr on Wednesday, November 22, 2023 11:01 AM

The inter-box connectors are all standardized in the 40' position. You can stack 40/45/48/53 containers in any order (except for some domestic 53s that aren't designed structurally to be stacked upon, and are stencilled "TOP POSITION ONLY").

You often find longer containers on top, because you can put a 40' container in a 40' well and then stack a 53' on top, overhaning the ends of the car body.

Some people will tell you that you can't stack a shorter 40' container on top of a longer one, but those people would be whaat I like to call wrong:

http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=dttx655660&o=ttx

http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=dttx657464&o=ttx

http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=dttx681189&o=ttx

20' or anything else shorter than a 40' standard container will be on the bottom as there's no middle attachment points for stacking 20' on top of 40'+ containers.

  • Member since
    February 2008
  • From: Potomac Yard
  • 2,761 posts
Posted by NittanyLion on Thursday, November 23, 2023 10:17 PM

When you see a 40 on top of a longer one, that's akin to seeing someone going the wrong way on a one way street. It isn't impossible to do, but don't do it. That's unsafe and a violation of ISO 668 that defines the rules for stacking containers. 

  • Member since
    October 2008
  • From: Calgary
  • 2,044 posts
Posted by cx500 on Friday, November 24, 2023 12:53 PM

I regularly see occasional examples of 40' containers on top of a longer one up here in Canada.  Seeing the longer one on top is way more common.  Part of that is that if it is a 40' well, the longer one must be on top. 

Now you have piqued my curiosity I will have to watch and see if examples occur on the IM trains that handle cross-border traffic to and from the USA.

John

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Users Online

There are no community member online

Search the Community

ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
Model Railroader Newsletter See all
Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox!