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NYC in 2022

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 2:21 PM

The Conrail split up is a bit different, but one interesting thing that I think gets misunderstood is that if two railroads merge to form a new railroad with a new name and reporting marks, the prior reporting marks for the two railroads become the property of the new railroad. Same if a railroad buys another railroad, the purchasing railroad takes over the reporting marks.

Union Pacific has freight cars in service in recent years using reporting marks CMO, MSTL, and CGW. These aren't old cars from the transition era, they're cars bought new by UP, but UP chose to use those old reporting marks when creating their freight car roster.

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Posted by NittanyLion on Tuesday, May 10, 2022 12:35 PM

Up until around 2010, there was a captured genuine NYC coil car shuffling around AK Steel up in Butler. 

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Posted by mvlandsw on Monday, May 9, 2022 10:40 PM

The tracks between Carson Street and the river are CSX, ex P&LE. That's probably why the NYC cars are there.

The NS tracks are above Carson Street.

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Posted by cv_acr on Monday, May 9, 2022 9:41 AM
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Posted by WPA on Friday, May 6, 2022 8:10 PM

Yes, photos 4, 5, and 6 are it.  Interesting, thanks to both for the info.

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, May 6, 2022 8:05 PM

WPA
A few of the gondolas had NYC showing but worn and a few had fresh patch outs with new white NYC letters.

During the disposition of Conrail assets to CSX and NS much of the equipment was temporarily given NYC or PRR reporting marks to designate which was going where.

Some locomotives even had the PRR keystone emblem applied below the engine number on the cab side.

As I recall the NYC marked equipment was going to the CSX and PRR to NS.

Then there was the COnrail "Shared Assets" that fell into another category and I believe run as a separate business entity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrail_Shared_Assets_Operations

I'll have to dig up the details, it was a while ago...

 NYC 21293 II by Todd Dillon, on Flickr

 The Transition has Begun by Craig Sanders, on Flickr

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, May 6, 2022 7:52 PM
In photos 4, 5, and 6 on this site, are these the gondolas you’re referring too?
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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NYC in 2022
Posted by WPA on Friday, May 6, 2022 6:36 PM

Was driving on West Carson Street in Pittsburgh, which parallels what I think are NS tracks along the Mon river/bike trail and spotted a long line of well worn gondolas.  They were all loaded with new ties.  A few of the gondolas had NYC showing but worn and a few had fresh patch outs with new white NYC letters.  They were obviously some type of MOW cars but wondered how the NYC identifier survied.  Is this just the way they are tracked on the rooster through time? I would have snapped a few pics but the place they were parked has no room to pull over.

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