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Ask MR : Cabooses and Helpers

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Posted by mvlandsw on Tuesday, May 3, 2022 3:36 PM

Pennsylvania prohibited pushing against an occupied caboose with more than 3500 horsepower in diesel days. That's two GP9's. The rear end crew had to ride the helper.

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Posted by wrench567 on Monday, May 2, 2022 8:04 AM

   It wasn't so much as railroad rules as individual state laws. I know Ohio was late to forgive the pushing of occupied cars. Pennsylvania law was prohibited to push wood frame cars/cabins that was occupied. West Virginia was the all steel cabin. Some of the PRR cabins later had the I beam collision posts. Those were not so much for protection from shoving but actual rear end collisions. Some divisions also had different rules for pushing occupied cars.

    Pete.

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Posted by NHTX on Monday, May 2, 2022 7:46 AM

     As stated each railroad had different rules about shoving against steel underframed cabooses but, some railroads required they be vacated by the rear end crew in such situations.

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Ask MR : Cabooses and Helpers
Posted by dehusman on Sunday, May 1, 2022 9:39 PM

Wood framed cabooses need to go behind the engine.

Generally, steel framed cabooses do not.  Individual railroad rules apply but on most railroads a helper can shove a steel caboose.

Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com

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