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Any Info on the NYC Destreamlined J3a Dreyfuss? (5446)

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 1:43 PM

There was just a discussion about streamlined / destreamlined NYC Hudsons:

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/13/t/288363.aspx

Basically the 1938 20th Century Hudsons (and the 1941 Empire State ones) began being destreamlined during WW2, and were all-destreamlined by 1948. Because the streamlining could make it more difficult to access parts of the engine for maintenance - and since the railroads needed a quick turnaround time in the shops due to the huge boom in wartime traffic - if a part of the streamlining was removed for maintenance, it was just left off and the engine sent out "as is". Pulling trains was more important than style points.

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Posted by Trainman440 on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 12:22 PM

thats some terrific info! thanks!

Its quite a rare sight to see

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 11:45 AM

Here's a look at the other side:

 J-3a_5446_6-1938 by Edmund, on Flickr

This is June of 1938 and the Hudson is only a year old, too early for a "de-streamlining" program. I do recall reading about (Al Stauffer, perhaps) a streamlined Hudson involved in a grade crossing incident where it hit a truck loaded with paint!

I'm sure the nose and side panels were replaced in these pre-War days. It's possible a new shell was being fabricated and/or the repair work was being held off until the engine's routine 30 day boiler wash.

Here she is in 1939, again in Englewood, all patched up:

https://www.railarchive.net/nyccollection/nyc5446_rdl.htm

 

Leonard M. Blum (LMB) was the owner of Hobby House here in Cleveland. He was a big NYC fan so he may have had a few of these run for himself and friends.

Regards, Ed

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Any Info on the NYC Destreamlined J3a Dreyfuss? (5446)
Posted by Trainman440 on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 10:10 AM

I found this LM Blum model of a seemlingly custom NYC destreamlined J3a #5446 hudson, and after a bit of photosearching, eventually found a prototype photo. Is there any info on this engine? I assume it was destreamlined for easier maintanence, but it just looks so weird, and was wondering if there was a weird story to go along with it. Did it survive a crash? Did it ever pull top end passenger trains after this refit?

Brass model: https://www.brasstrains.com/Classic/Product/Detail/094168/HO-Brass-Model-LMB-Destreamlined-NYC-New-York-Central-4-6-4-5446-Hudson-Custom-Super-Detailed-Unpainted

 

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Youtube Channel: www.youtube.com/@trainman440

Instagram (where I share projects!): https://www.instagram.com/trainman440

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