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Clinchfield boxcar lettering schemes

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Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:25 PM

rrebell
Wow, companys found that I did not know exist, unfortinitly the decal line was sold and is not yet posted at new site.

Tichy offers HO scale decals for a number of roadnames.

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Posted by rrebell on Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:27 AM

doctorwayne

There are a number of books on freight cars by Ted Culotta (the first two volumes are by Richard Hendrickson, before he passed away) most of the cars dating from the pre-WWII era. 
Each book deals with one particular type of car:

Volume One - Single Sheathed Box & Automobile Cars

Volume Two - Double Sheathed Box & Automobile Cars

Volume Three - Refrigerator Cars

Volume Four - Steel Boxcars

Volume Five - Steel Automobile Cars

Volume Six - Refrigerator Cars 2

Volume Seven - Rebuilt Box & Automobile Cars

Volume Eight - Refrigerator Cars 3

Volume Nine - Single Sheathed Box & Automobile Cars 2

Volume Ten - Other Freight Car Types

Volume Eleven - Express and Head-End Cars

All consist of b&w photos of cars from various roads, some are close-up, and all are captioned.  Most, if not all, of the photos show the cars' lettering very distinctly, so it's very easy to see the timeframe in which the car was in service, whether from the built date, but even moreso from the re-weigh dates.

The books are available from Speedwitch Media.

The books are not cheap, but, from the titles which I've listed above, you can pick out those most suited to the information which you're seeking.

I would be glad to provide info from the books, but don't have a suitable way to contact you via e-mail, nor to give you my e-mail address, as the "Conversations" feature of this Forum is not working at all for me to contact anybody, and I also cannot reply there to messages from others.
If you want to try sending me a PM that includes your e-mail address, please do so - if I can read it, I will then e-mail my address to you, and we can get busy  clarifying which cars and lettering schemes are appropriate for your rolling stock.

Wayne

 

Wow, companys found that I did not know exist, unfortinitly the decal line was sold and is not yet posted at new site.

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Posted by ndbprr on Friday, January 8, 2021 7:41 AM

Generally historical societies will know for the railroads they represent.  Members are usually glad to help answer questions

 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Wednesday, January 6, 2021 6:58 PM

There are a number of books on freight cars by Ted Culotta (the first two volumes are by Richard Hendrickson, before he passed away) most of the cars dating from the pre-WWII era. 
Each book deals with one particular type of car:

Volume One - Single Sheathed Box & Automobile Cars

Volume Two - Double Sheathed Box & Automobile Cars

Volume Three - Refrigerator Cars

Volume Four - Steel Boxcars

Volume Five - Steel Automobile Cars

Volume Six - Refrigerator Cars 2

Volume Seven - Rebuilt Box & Automobile Cars

Volume Eight - Refrigerator Cars 3

Volume Nine - Single Sheathed Box & Automobile Cars 2

Volume Ten - Other Freight Car Types

Volume Eleven - Express and Head-End Cars

All consist of b&w photos of cars from various roads, some are close-up, and all are captioned.  Most, if not all, of the photos show the cars' lettering very distinctly, so it's very easy to see the timeframe in which the car was in service, whether from the built date, but even moreso from the re-weigh dates.

The books are available from Speedwitch Media.

The books are not cheap, but, from the titles which I've listed above, you can pick out those most suited to the information which you're seeking.

I would be glad to provide info from the books, but don't have a suitable way to contact you via e-mail, nor to give you my e-mail address, as the "Conversations" feature of this Forum is not working at all for me to contact anybody, and I also cannot reply there to messages from others.
If you want to try sending me a PM that includes your e-mail address, please do so - if I can read it, I will then e-mail my address to you, and we can get busy  clarifying which cars and lettering schemes are appropriate for your rolling stock.

Wayne

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, January 6, 2021 4:04 PM

Yes I am having a hard time with all the roads as there are few places to find out what year this or that paint job was used and when you are trying to model a certain time frame, this can be important. Details are easy and cars can many times be backdated but prefer thye paint job to be valid. Sometimes the era is plain to see but other times not. I have a Missouri Pacific with correct paint but on left side is I-GN in bold letters, now I know that them MP aquired them before my cutoff date but casn not find out when this layout was used.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, January 5, 2021 11:45 AM

Looks like the majority of the Protocraft decals are mostly for O scale.  However, a suitably-sized alphabet set with letters and numerals could easily do the early lettering version.
If you're planning to do the Clinchfield's first steel boxcars, Atlas offered at least a couple versions of the 1932 ARA boxcar, the main difference, I think, being the car's ends.

This Central of Georgia 1932 design is an Atlas car...

...while this Seaboard car is a scratchbuilt version of the 1932 ARA design...

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Posted by rrebell on Tuesday, January 5, 2021 10:29 AM

Thanks, this is leading me in the right direction. Trying to thin my colection of boxcars to reflect the 1939, just have too many and they all have the right details but many are for a later time period. 

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Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, January 5, 2021 2:02 AM

rrebell
I think the first one was the earliest.

This site would suggest you're right!

https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=957&Categoryid=20

Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Clinchfield boxcar lettering schemes
Posted by rrebell on Monday, January 4, 2021 10:28 AM

Going though boxcars I own and have two for the Clinchfield, One with Clinchfield written on the left side with CRR right under it, other has crr on lrft side with a circle with wings on right side, question is when were the schemes used, I think the first one was the earliest.

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