Bennett Levin has provided this look at the documentation of the tenth and fifteenth anniversaries of the special trains run for veterans and service members to the Army-Navy games.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KTpiDzE_SBSosNyNI6LAD6U6izYCKmQW/view
Being a bit of a PRR nut and also a passenger train modeler I've always been fascinated by the "specials" run to the games by the B&O and the PRR.
I have always used the excuse to have "off-road" or foreign passenger cars on my layout for just this reason. There were dozens of events every month that the railroads operated special trains for and there were often cars from various roads represented.
Hats off to Mr. Levin for making these trains available and for spotlighting the recognition to our service members and veterans.
Regards, Ed
Yes, a salute to Mr Levin from a US Army vet (75-99)!
When I think Army-Navy, I always think of Griff Teller's "Mass Transportation"
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mass_Transportation_(Army-Navy_Game)_by_Grif_Teller,_1955.jpg
The wild thing is that this huge passenger terminal was a freight yard the other 364 days of the year. That the PRR would mobilize the work force and spend the money to put it up and tear it down every year says a lot about the Railroad in its glory years and the place the academies have in our nation's heart,
Princeton University had its own version of this on a somewhat more frequent basis -- Karl Zimmermann '65 had an account of the operation in 'The Remarkable GG1'. There was a whole electrified yard near the end of the 'Dinky' branch lines, and multiple trains pulled by GG1s would arrive, followed by one GG1. This would attach to the rear of the 'first train out' leaving that train's GG1 to attach to the next ... eventually leaving a lone GG1 to run light.
The first big student parking lots, when students were again permitted to keep cars, were built over the site of that yard...
Gary
garyaWere there other special trains run for football games?
I know the PRR ran quite a few Cleveland - Pittsburgh baseball specials.
One of the baseball trains, a special from Harrisburg to Philly, had a wreck and there were several fatalities. I believe they attributed it to sabotage.
https://www.pennlive.com/life/2019/07/the-baseball-special-train-crash-in-1962-it-was-one-helluva-mess.html
Also the PRR ran many horse racing specials:
Bowie_PRR_TTb by Edmund, on Flickr
Likewise, one of these Bowie specials wrecked, too. The engineer took the curve into the park too fast off the main and the engines and several cars tipped over. Some of the bloodied passengers hiked the last mile or so to the race track!
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1998-02-01-1998032072-story.html
Amtrak offered some, too!
https://history.amtrak.com/blogs/blog/amtrak-and-football
garyaFor some reason, I get 403 forbidden when I try to edit my post.
One possibility may be that the software no longer understands you were the creator of the post (reading now-outdated credentials) and therefore would not let "you" edit it now...
I've been looking at old New York Times articles on line, and found this from 1921: https://www.nytimes.com/1921/11/11/archives/special-trains-will-carry-new-haven-football-crowds.html
Read about the Harvard-Yale game in the '20s sometime--it's a trip. There are pages of coverage, including who attended, what the ladies were wearing, parties attended, etc.
Gary, That's the reason it's known as "The Game", with no details necessary
New Haven & NYC also ran specials to Poughkeepsie for the college regatta on the Hudson. You could even ride special "bleachers cars" that were pulled alongside the race. See about 1:50 in this video
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrJ6wrNjd9f0CEAuUs2nIlQ?p=railroad+poughkeepsie+regatta&hsimp=yhs-fullyhosted_003&hspart=iry&type=wsg_fjnhltxzm_20_09_ssg00¶m1=1¶m2=f%3D7%26b%3Dchmm%26cc%3Dus%26pa%3Dwincy%26cd%3D2XzuyEtN2Y1L1Qzu0F0AzyyE0CtB0F0DzytB0C0EyEyDtDzytN0D0Tzu0StBzyzztDtN1L2XzuyEtFyCtCtFtDtFtCtBtBtN1L1Czu1BtCtN1L1G1B1V1N2Y1L1Qzu2SyDzztCzz0DzytDyBtGtAyDtAtDtGyEtC0B0AtGtDyE0FtCtGyEtAzy0EtCyEzz0CyE0EtC0B2QtN1M1F1B2Z1V1N2Y1L1Qzu2StDtD1SzyzytAzy1StGyDtBtAyCtGyEtD1StBtG1StCtD1QtGtB1QtB1Q1TtBzyzz1RtA1Rzz2QtN0A0LzuyEtN1B2Z1V1T1S1NzutByDzztAzztN1Q2Z1B1P1RzutCyDzztBzytCyEyCyBtA%26cr%3D1815268838%26a%3Dwsg_fjnhltxzm_20_09_ssg00%26os_ver%3D10.0%26os%3DWindows%2B10%2BHome&fr=yhs-iry-fullyhosted_003&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Ai%2Cm%3Apivot&guce_referrer=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_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OKAY, something obviously didn't work. The video is on youtube and is entitled "History of Rowing On the Hudson - Trailer 7"
BEAUSABRE OKAY, something obviously didn't work. The video is on youtube and is entitled "History of Rowing On the Hudson - Trailer 7"
Believe it or not, it did. Try this link, starting at 1:47:
https://youtu.be/0-732_tX9N4?t=107
When my dad was a high school sophmore, his school ended up in the Big Enchilada - The Texas State Championship in what was then the Texas State Fairgrounds Stadium (now the Cotton Bowl) in Dallas. Anyone who ever saw "Friday Night Lights" knows how big that is. Now, Dad's hometown made its living off farming and railroads (Granddad was a machinist in the L&A roundhouse), with the L&A and Cotton Belt competing for traffic. Both lines put on special trains to Dallas on gameday, and dad said the trains were standing room only and the town was deserted. I am told the attendence - for a high school game in the depression - was over 30,000! The opposition was from Dallas, so maybe half that number had come from Greenville on the specials. Certainly, Dad's whole family - Mom, Dad, two sisters (the older one was a cheerleader) and two brothers - was there to see Dad playing guard and tackle. Oh, yeah...the final score: Greenville 21 - Dallas Tech 0.
The point of all this, if you are modeling the age of steam or the transition era, specials to the Big Game or from your bitter rival when you host the game (high school or college) add traffic, justify off-line cars (from the rival school or leased to help with the volume of traffic), and extra cars on scheduled trains.
And don't forget, Monon president John W Barriger chose indiana University's Cream and Red for his passenger equipment
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and Purdue's Black and Gold for freight equipment
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When I was a student at University of Wisconsin-Madison, trains carrying fans were run a number of times. One train I remember left Madison for Minneapolis for the last game of the season, against Minnesota, in 1963. The date of the train ... November 22. JFK was assassinated while the train was running north. When it got to Minneapolis it was turned and came back to Madison. The game was postponed and, if I recall correctly, was played on November 30 instead of November 23.