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DL-110 plans

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DL-110 plans
Posted by mcdonaldrails on Friday, January 14, 2005 9:53 AM
Does anyone know of any published plans/drawings of an ALCO DL-110 (Southern or ATSF)? I have searched the magazine index and come up empty handed.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 14, 2005 9:55 AM
Try the Illinois Rail Museum... I seem to remember that they had some drawings....
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Posted by orsonroy on Friday, January 14, 2005 10:36 AM
Dumb question, but have you tried searching the index under DL-107 or DL-109? Most modelers used to think of these engines as being the same thing, and magazines would routinely lump them all together. I know that both Craftsman and MR have run plans for the "DL-109", and they might be what you're looking for.

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Posted by leighant on Friday, January 14, 2005 4:21 PM
The DL-110 was the "B" unit version of the DL-109. ATSF #50 was ATSF's only DL-109, #50A their only DL-110.

pix & scale scrawings, Model Railroader Apr71 p.51
#50, pix Model Railroader Apr71 p.54
pix ATSF System Employee Timetables vol.1, cover
pix Santa Fe Diesels & Cars p.6
pix SF Streamliners; Chiefs & Tribesmen p.47
diagram Iron Horses of the Santa Fe Trail p.D-104
pix Iron Horses of the Santa Fe Trail p.402, 438

On what trains and in what territories did Santa Fe's DL-109 #50 operate?
#50 and #50A are shown on the point of the streamlined Chief at Edelstein, IL in 1942 on the cover of the Santa Fe Modelers Organization's publication System Employee Timetables, Vol.One. A note says the shrouded headlight indicates operation on the West Coast, suggesting transcontinental service. Photos in Zimmerman's Santa Fe Streamliners: the Chiefs and their Tribesmen p.47 and Wayner Publications' Santa Fe Diesels and Cars p.6 are not identified as to train but they appear to show the Chief at Chicago in the early 1940s.
Philip R. Hastings photographed DL-109 #50 with an E7 booster bringing the Ranger through Houston, Texas toward Galveston in July 1948. (Railfan & Railroad magazine, November 1979 p.38-39.) The Ranger was then the secondary train over the same route as the Texas Chief.
#50 and an unmatching booster (NOT 50A) is shown pulling the Chicagoan across Sibley Bridge over the Missouri River, year unknown, in Iron Horses of the Santa Fe Trail p.402. The same photo is printed with a Santa Fe diesel roster in Railroad magazine, August 1971 p.54.
#50 is shown as a lone unit followed by a head-end car at San Bernadino in 1952, in Iron Horses of the Santa Fe Trail p.438. The single power unit suggests a short passenger consist, perhaps the San Bernadino Local.

Hope this is of some help to you. I have a Concor DL-109 (A unit) and plan to use an old Atlas E-7 shell to bash an E-6 B-unit. Somewhere on my list of projects. My present layout not big enough or broad enough curves to support passenger train operations.

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Posted by WC3023 on Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:14 PM
Proto 1000 Life Like makes a very nice DL109.Nice detail on the body shell and a very smooth running gear. I have 2 units in Milw. Road paint
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CF7's A perfectly good use for a worn out F unit ! And they are COOL!
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Posted by passengerfan on Sunday, January 16, 2005 8:30 PM
Santa Fe 50 and 51 made one trip to Los angeles at the head of the Super Chief. The units were a big disapointment in the Mountains and were thereafter kept on the plains for the remainder of their careers on Santa Fe. Most oiften they ran on the Chicagoan and Kansas City after a second unit became a permanent fixture on these trains. It is also known they operated on the Tulsan and after WW II found asssignment on the Texas Chief, Kansas City Chief and also the Tulsan.

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