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NYSW Susie-Q Boxcars

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NYSW Susie-Q Boxcars
Posted by LarryZ on Thursday, January 9, 2020 12:16 PM

Hello, all.

On a recent trip to to visit my girlfriend's family in Utica, NY, I noticed a railroad paralleling Route 12. I learned that it was the Utica Branch of the NYSW. Having learned a little about the railroad, I'd like to represent it on my 1970 C&O Piedmont Subdivision layout. According to my ORER, the NYSW had a frieght car fleet of 26 boxcars, 24 of them the green 40' Susie-Q boxcars. I've done some searching online, but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of information out there. I did find 5 or so photos, but nothing about who built the cars, what type of roof they had, etc. Does anyone have any information that they'd be willing to share?

Thanks,
Larry

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, January 10, 2020 10:00 AM

Well I was able to find a few pictures anyway, that's a start....

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsList.aspx?id=NYSW&cid=2

...and their hysterical society:

http://tnyswthsi.shuttlepod.org/

Stix
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Posted by dti406 on Friday, January 10, 2020 10:22 AM

Using the steam era freight car site, I found this information.

NYS&W 401-435 35 11-52   8080 6 5P Sup H M G

A3

These were 40' Pullman Standard Boxcars, with their proprietary roof and ends and equipped witha 6' 5 panel Superior Door.

Twentyfive of these cars were eventually sold to Monon and repainted.

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Posted by mikeGTW on Friday, January 10, 2020 10:38 AM

Sorry wrong info   right rr wrong type of boxcar 

won't happen again

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Posted by LarryZ on Friday, January 10, 2020 10:43 AM

Rick,

Thanks for the info, but these aren't the cars I was looking for (OK, sorry for the lame Star Wars reference).

The 400-series cars were - as you found - PS-1's that NYSW purchased in the late 1940's. In the early 60's, the railroad sold all but two of them (401 and 402) to the Monon. To replace them, they purchased a group of 40' boxcars from the Lehigh Valley (oddly, the replacement cars were built in 1926, which made them significantly older than the cars they replaced - I don't get that decision). Those cars were numbered in the 500-series and many of them were repainted into the green Susie-Q scheme. Those are the ones I'm interested in. I've contacted both the NYSW and LV Historical Societies, but haven't heard back from them yet.

Best,
Larry

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Posted by dti406 on Friday, January 10, 2020 11:53 AM

mikeGTW

Larry I have a Bev-Bel  40' box car NYSW "Susie Q"  It's dark green with black ends

If you can find it any where  the part number is 327-21 released in 1999

there is a site mainline model miniatures that has photos

 

 

But it is an incorrect car, Bev-Bel used Athearn's 1937 AAR Modified Car body to those cars in place of the PS-1 car that is correct.

Rick Jesionowski

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