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B&LE 2-10-4

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B&LE 2-10-4
Posted by oldline1 on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 2:07 PM

Anyone bidding on the B&LE 2-10-4 #643 listed on feebay? Price has dropped from $575K to $375K. 

Seriously, I sure would hate to see it get scrapped as it's always been one of my favorite steam classes.

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 4:16 PM

oldline1
Anyone bidding on the B&LE 2-10-4 #643 listed on feebay?

What is "FEEBAY"? Never heard of it. Do you have a link to it?

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Posted by Enzoamps on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 8:33 PM

It is a cleverism.  You know like the folks who always call Las Vegas "Lost Wages".

 

Some people call it "Flea Bay".

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 8:48 PM

Never mind, I miss-read the OP's post.  

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Posted by dknelson on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 9:09 PM

Yes that engine has long been one of the "will it ever run again?" steamers.  Supposedly it was well taken care of its in stored retirement.  

The B&LE published a booklet in 1954 basically documenting and celebrating its conversion from steam to diesel.  The author of the booklet noted that on many railroads, top officials would greet the last steam run but on the B&LE the event happened so suddenly and expectedly that there was no one event or celebration - hence the very interesting booklet that had photos of many classes of B&LE steam locomotives.  "We had a fine fleet of steam locomotives and a fine set of men to run them."  It documents last runs and the names of crews (and call times!).  643 last ran 8/13/52 in a Conneaut Branch drag freight with two others of its class. 

The last listed steam run was yard work with # 156 (a 2-8-0 I think) on 5-14-53, although the booklet insists the last run was December, 1952.  2-10-4 # 642 was worked on so I could head up a line of dead steam headed for the scrapper on June 2, 1954.  That was the farewell to steam on the B&LE.  

The B&LE held on to two examples for historical exhibit.  2-8-0 # 154, and 2-10-4 # 643.  

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Posted by EMDSD40 on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 10:13 PM

I attempted to locate the listing with no success. The last time I saw 643 it was sitting in the yards of the old P&LE shop complex in McKees Rocks, PA. It was covered with torn tarps, vandalized, and rusting away. Six figures for what I saw a couple of years ago.......I find that hard to believe. I knew the owner from back in the 80’s and he had great plans to use the engine to pull PTMS passenger cars in excursion service on the old Chessie System out of the B&O station in Pittsburgh. I remember the engine ran a short break in run after repairs. PTMS was a group of guys within the local chapter of the NRHS. Go to YouTube and search Patrain and a video of the station and many of our cars will come up. Currently I believe the entire shop complex in the Rocks is torn down to make way for a CSX intermodal terminal. Location of the engine unknown at this posting. I do run into the owner at local train shows on occasion and I will ask him for an update. 

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Posted by SPSOT fan on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 10:34 PM

Wait, we are talking about a real 1:1 scale steamer here! Wow, being sold on Ebay! That explains why the price is so high! I hope the person who buys it doesn’t intend to scrap it, but will at least cosmetically restore it if not completely. It would be very sad to see such a great engine disappear. The 2-10-4 is quite a rare wheel arrangement, making it quite worthy of restoration.

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 8:41 AM

Well I searched Ebay when the OP first posted, and I couldn't find anything. Perhaps the OP could furnish a link?

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Posted by mbinsewi on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:10 PM

That's why I didn't find it, Ebay Motors, a place I have never gone.

Well jump in there Oldline1. Laugh  Surprise the family. Surprise

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Posted by OldEngineman on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:34 PM

Looks like it was retro-fitted with #26 brake equipment at some point...

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Posted by wjstix on Thursday, May 16, 2019 9:12 AM

I've always liked those engines, would be nice to see it preserved somewhere. Wonder if "The Depot" (Lake Superior RR Museum) up in Duluth MN would be interested? Although this engine was only used on the B&LE, 18 (IIRC) of it's twin-sister 2-10-4s were transferred to the DM&IR in the early fifties, serving on ore trains until the end of steam in 1960.

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Posted by Bayfield Transfer Railway on Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:00 AM

The sad truth is that every railroad museum in the world already has all the hunks of rusting iron they need.  Unless somebody coughs up the $50,000 to $100,000 to restore it, no museum will go anywhere near that engine.

Disclaimer:  This post may contain humor, sarcasm, and/or flatulence.

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