At the Valero Refinery (ex-Ultramar) Levis, QC 15 minutes from home, they split the train in 2 to 4 strings of 17 TankTrain cars each that are to be filled from one end.
Martin
Overmod You'd always have the ability to hook hoses to multiple cars 'in parallel' to speed loading or unloading without compromising the siphon arrangement that would (more slowly) full or drain the set from one end
You'd always have the ability to hook hoses to multiple cars 'in parallel' to speed loading or unloading without compromising the siphon arrangement that would (more slowly) full or drain the set from one end
GATX says it takes 90 minutes to fill 5 Tanktrain cars.
If you were to do parallel feeding, a worker would have to connect 4 more cars. And disconnect 4 more cars. And be paid. And the extra equipment amortized.
I'm not sure there's an advantage with parallel fill.
Or put another way, if parallel filling was a good idea, who would bother with Tanktrain?
Ed
Wonder if you would get better results with the more precise (and relevant) search string "GATX TankTrain".
Trains has an article about this, I think in the early '70s, that discussed the loading and unloading issues. You'd always have the ability to hook hoses to multiple cars 'in parallel' to speed loading or unloading without compromising the siphon arrangement that would (more slowly) full or drain the set from one end
7j43k"1203" is gasoline.
Yes, it is.
https://www.hazmattool.com/info.php
The link to a discussion in Trains, that Ed, gmpullman, posted, about half way down page 1, in a post from ericp, click on his link to the Albany Terminal.
His map opens in Bing. You can get a much better image in Google Satellite.
Mike.
My You Tube
Martin4 Hi Robert, this is the way they load individual cars. TankTrain cars are linked with interconnecting pipes and loaded from the end of a 2 to 17 string of cars. This is what I try to model. Martin
Hi Robert,
this is the way they load individual cars. TankTrain cars are linked with interconnecting pipes and loaded from the end of a 2 to 17 string of cars. This is what I try to model.
Okay, good. That clears things up. Thanks.
But, that platform I saw loading 12 tankers simultaneously looked pretty neat and model worthy . . . My layout features modern oil cans and that kind of facility could be an interesting addition.
Robert
LINK to SNSR Blog
"1203" is gasoline.
Martin4Tanktrains are loaded from one end of a 2 to 13 permanently interconnected car string. I saw nothing yet. Thanks for your reply.
Some discussion here:
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/67350.aspx
Like so many threads it devolves into nitrogen-filled tires but there is a good end-shot of a car used for loading about mid-way down page 1.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2547/5810719248_b1b0c0fae4_b.jpg
Good luck, Ed
Martin4 Done that. They only show standard individual car loading ramps; Tanktrains are loaded from one end of a 2 to 13 permanently interconnected car string. I saw nothing yet. Thanks for your reply.
Done that.
They only show standard individual car loading ramps; Tanktrains are loaded from one end of a 2 to 13 permanently interconnected car string. I saw nothing yet.
Thanks for your reply.
I'm not sure I understand the question or the responses.
I did the search exactly the way Mike (mbinsewi) suggested. The very first thing on the list is a one-minute YouTube video showing a string of about a dozen tank cars pulling up to a modern platform and filler arms swinging out and over the fill port at the top middle of each tanker. Isn't this what the OP is looking for?
Sorry Martin, I misunderstood. Now I realize your talking about the cars that are all connected.
I would like to model that too. I already have the cars. Apperantly I am behind though, because I had no idea they were unloaded using ramps.
I'm beginning to realize that Windows 10 and sound decoders have a lot in common. There are so many things you have to change in order to get them to work the way you want.
I don't, for one.
But.
Because of the design of the cars, each track will have only one delivery hose location. I don't know if it would be top or bottom feed. I imagine the location for each track will align with the others. Each location wil be pretty small, except that the hose size (6"?) mitigates that. I also think the area will be roofed in or semi-enclosed. Since the loading area is small, doing that is not expensive. And it would be safer for workers to keep out of the rain/weather.
Hope these observations are of some help. I do think combining these observations with imagination and common sense could get you to a very believable model. Besides, if there are no photos available, who's gonna argue?
Try a Google search for crude oil tank car loading, and go to images. I think you'll get some good ideas.
I spent quite a few hours looking for pics of Tanktrain loading ramp. I saw a lot of Tanktrain cars on the raod but nothing about their loading ramps; only standard single car ramps.
I want to model 3 loading tracks for my HO refinery.
Does anyone has links to these ?