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Consolidated Stencils no longer required on NA interchange rolling stock?

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Consolidated Stencils no longer required on NA interchange rolling stock?
Posted by chutton01 on Saturday, May 12, 2018 10:20 AM

I came across a statement "in passing" on a different site which stated that consolidated stencils are no longer required on rolling stock ("in passing" means the author drops a nuclear bomb of a concept in a sentance and then keeps on writing in a different direction).
Searching around simply proves that lots of stuff is NOT searchable on the internet, being simply unindexed or hidden on unreachable servers - there's a "No Robots" directive for a reason - but I was able to come up with the following:

C-12978
Implementation of Revisions to MSRP Section L - LETTERING AND MARKING OF CARS, Standard S-910 Lettering and Marking of Cars.  Removal of Consolidated Stencil and max height for reporting marks and car number

Issued: October 27, 2017
Effective: October 27, 2017

The revised Standard S-910, attached to the circular, is now implemented and effective immediately.

(From Greenbrier)

That circular number C-12978 brings me to AAR Technical services, but unfortunately: 
"Circulars are a fee-based service provided by Transportation Technology Center Inc. (TTCI) in Pueblo, Colorado."
Yeah, that ain't gonna happen.

Was there a massive debate about this topic on this forum at the time and i simply missed it (very possible) even though searching brought up nothing about it?

As an aside, what is the technical name of the relatively new (and fairly prominent) data grid stencil on modern tank cars?

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Posted by cv_acr on Sunday, May 13, 2018 5:57 PM

chutton01

I came across a statement "in passing" on a different site which stated that consolidated stencils are no longer required on rolling stock ("in passing" means the author drops a nuclear bomb of a concept in a sentance and then keeps on writing in a different direction).

Yep, I've been photographing new/repainted cars without them for about a year now.

chutton01
As an aside, what is the technical name of the relatively new (and fairly prominent) data grid stencil on modern tank cars?

Qualification tables.

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Posted by wjstix on Sunday, May 13, 2018 10:27 PM

My understanding is that the COTS has been considered obsolete for quite some time, so I don't think this is anything new. The directive might just be saying that if a railroad still has some cars with the stencils, it should remove them? 

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Monday, May 14, 2018 11:10 AM

chutton01

I came across a statement "in passing" on a different site which stated that consolidated stencils are no longer required on rolling stock ("in passing" means the author drops a nuclear bomb of a concept in a sentance and then keeps on writing in a different direction).
Searching around simply proves that lots of stuff is NOT searchable on the internet, being simply unindexed or hidden on unreachable servers - there's a "No Robots" directive for a reason - but I was able to come up with the following:

 
C-12978
Implementation of Revisions to MSRP Section L - LETTERING AND MARKING OF CARS, Standard S-910 Lettering and Marking of Cars.  Removal of Consolidated Stencil and max height for reporting marks and car number

Issued: October 27, 2017
Effective: October 27, 2017

The revised Standard S-910, attached to the circular, is now implemented and effective immediately.

(From Greenbrier)

That circular number C-12978 brings me to AAR Technical services, but unfortunately: 
"Circulars are a fee-based service provided by Transportation Technology Center Inc. (TTCI) in Pueblo, Colorado."
Yeah, that ain't gonna happen.

 

Was there a massive debate about this topic on this forum at the time and i simply missed it (very possible) even though searching brought up nothing about it?

As an aside, what is the technical name of the relatively new (and fairly prominent) data grid stencil on modern tank cars?

 

Maybe that guy said it "in passing" because he assumed everyone got the memo?

No big conversation on here that I remember, but then again, I model the blissful time of 1954, before any such "directive"........

Sheldon

    

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