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Posted by E-L man tom on Monday, September 18, 2017 5:48 PM

To be more exact, I use the factor of 0.138, which is 1 ft. on HO scale, thats:

1 ft /87.1 ft HO scale = 0.01148 ft

0.01148 X 12 in = 0.137773, or rounded = 0.138

So, for example, 8 ft. X 0.138 = 1.104 or 1.1 inch in HO. The difference between 1.1" and 1.125" doesn't seem like much, but when you get into tens or hundreds of scale feet it throws everything way off.

 

Tom Modeling the free-lanced Toledo Erie Central switching layout.
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Posted by DSchmitt on Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:33 PM

Good information. Thanks

The standard modern rural highway (both freeway and conventional) for rebuilt or new constuction is 12' lanes with 8' to 10' paved shoulders but the standard is not always adheared to.

County roads are now when built or rebuilt  often  to the same standard but a lightly traveled road would still often be narrower.

Look at roads in the area to be modeled.  Aerials and street views (Bing or Google) are very useful.  Many roads have not been widened since built. 

Old oil company often indicate road surface (unpaved, gravel, paved).  For instance much of US Highway 50 in California and Nevada  was gravel until sometime after World War 2. 

A lady I worked with grew up in a small mid-Western town.  The paved highway did not run through town.   The town streets were paved, but the main road from the Highway to the town was gravel in the 1960's 

 

I tried to sell my two cents worth, but no one would give me a plug nickel for it.

I don't have a leg to stand on.

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Street Widths
Posted by rogerhensley on Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:10 AM

Street Widths
Here in Anderson Indiana, each lane was about 12 feet wide. It was dependent upon the type of roadway (main street, residential or back country road, etc) but most business streets and highways were built at about 12 feet per lane. Earlier, in the twenties, roads were only about 20 feet wide total, so, if the portion of the town you wish to model was built in that era, a 20 foot roadway is fine.
 
If each lane were 10 feet wide, that would be 1 and 3/8s inch. So a two lane street would be 2 and 3/4 inches. 10 feet is what I use for the lanes of my city streets. Modern hiway lanes would be wider. Parking lanes would have been more narrow in the 50s, say 8 or 8 1/2 feet.
As a guide in HO:
                         8' = 1 1/8
                        10' = 1 3/8
                        12' = 1 5/8
                        15' = 2 1/16
                        20' = 2 3/4
                        25' = 3 7/16
Around here, little has changed in the city streets since the late 40s. A few sidewalks have been removed to widen the lanes and a few streets have had major work done on them to add additional lanes, but the width still stands at about 10 to 12 feet per lane and most side streets are really about three lanes wide total. Small towns would have been this way as well. Some of the main streets in small towns actually had wider streets and also used angle parking.
 
Country lanes and county roads were much narrower back then, in some cases no more than 12 or 13 feet total. If you met a farm truck you were in big trouble.  Part of the problem with all of this is that the width of streets and roads vary according to where you are and what the local street and hiway departments did. This is why there are no set widths for streets in any scale. You can calculate what you need according to your area and era always keeping in mind what looks good to you. Rather than calculate 3.5 mm equal 1 foot, I just used a scale rule and a regular ruler to change the actual scale feet into inches so the figures are not exact, but are very close. I highly recommend a scale rule. The one I have is a 'General' no. 1251. It's been well worth the money. 
 
Oh, one other thing, sidewalks in the business district were about 10 feet wide.
Roger

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